Marijuana And Nihangs

[caveman 6]

omg omg

shaheedi degh shahhedi degh

eh nawi hi cheez kad layi aa

so u mean that karah parshad di degh has no power in it?

sahibzade had shaeedi degh??? omg this is so ridiculous

did guru sahib also shuk shaeedi degh?

i dnt turst what ever ur references r from.

stop brainwashing people here.

bhai mati das bhai sati das bhai dayala jina nu enne taseehe dittey did they had shaeedi degh when they were arrested?

they sacrified their life for not being muslim for not eating all that <banned word filter activated> and guys saying that baba deep singh ji used to eat that. didnt baba deep singh ji have naam kamai to be strong enogh to fight?

and yea !!!bhai bachitaar singh had enough time to first shuk shaeedi degh and then worry abt the elephant who was destroying everything.

all these things u r saying can never be accepted in sikh panth. GURU SAHIB SAID NOTHING LIKE THAT.

WHY THERE WAS NO SHAHEEDI DEGH WHILE SELECTION OF PANJ PYARE ? WHY THERE WAS NO BAKRA IN BAATA?

OK U WILL SAY THERE WAS... THEN WHY NOT NOW IN AMRITSHACHARS NOW DAYS?

what do akj kno... ur just a modern man made jatha with sum f*cked up views

thats tru, akj's have distorted the nihang maryada.

p.s. this isnt jatha bashing.

I second that

i ''third'' that if i could use that in this contest :S

[Kaljug Singh 49]

One thing I don't get?

I have never seen anypone on cannabis/marijuanan who is not 10 times more lazy, slow and dopey (hence the term) than before. How can this possibly help a warrior?? It will slow down physical reaction times, slow down the thinking process and make you seriously hungry? How can this help?

Opium on the other hand, has clear and proven analgesic effects. So I can see how this may have been used medicinally to stop pain. It is still used to in hospitals.

Fateh!

The laziness of potheads is legendary, but on the other hand it takes phenomenal will power to maintain the amazing nitnem, seva, and shastra training of modern Nihang Singhs in the Dals. You can either take their example to mean that shaheedi degh does not have the same effects as smoking cannabis or that the discipline of their warrior life style is strong enough to counteract these problems (and that they develop extraordinary will power as a result).

Opium is too addictive to be used daily and it has soporific effects which are not particularly useful for a combatant (unless wounded, of course).

I wonder how some of the people here would feel if they were a pilot in the US or British Air Force and they had to take amphetamines to stay awake and alert for an air battle or bombing campaign that may last for more than 24 hours. Would they refuse the drugs if instead it was a future Khalistan Air Force involved in war against a panthic dusht?

Regards,

K.

[jassa 166]

and yea !!!bhai bachitaar singh had enough time to first shuk shaeedi degh and then worry abt the elephant who was destroying everything.

Yes ... oki let me give u a very quick itehas oh that battle day ... sikhs knew one day before that next day they will send elephant ... of the strongest sikh whose name came in history as "Dunni Ram" guru sahib told him if they are sending elephant we will also send our elephant to fight him and that to alone ... hearing this dunni ram got afraid (may be he was also againt shahhedi degh) and in the night ran away from anandpur sahib ... but while juming the high walls he broke his hip bone and died ... next day early in the morning when sangat told guru sahib ... that dunni ram tried escaping and died ... guru sahib prepared his smallest sikh ... baba bachitar singh stood only 4'11 ... to fight elephant ... he dressed up did his morning nitname had his degh and then went to fight the elephant ... this is as per sikh history ... but u will hardly find it in sikh history column on the last page of the weekly newspaper ... which is the main source of sikh history of todays youth ...

[HSD*^ 19]

I wonder how some of the people here would feel if they were a pilot in the US or British Air Force and they had to take amphetamines to stay awake and alert for an air battle or bombing campaign that may last for more than 24 hours. Would they refuse the drugs if instead it was a future Khalistan Air Force involved in war against a panthic dusht?

of course they would. these people are idiots. mind you when it comes to it they wouldnt fly in fighter planes because they would want all the ground crew to be amritdhari.

[chatanga 1,058]

I wonder how some of the people here would feel if they were a pilot in the US or British Air Force and they had to take amphetamines to stay awake and alert for an air battle or bombing campaign that may last for more than 24 hours. Would they refuse the drugs if instead it was a future Khalistan Air Force involved in war against a panthic dusht?

of course they would. these people are idiots. mind you when it comes to it they wouldnt fly in fighter planes because they would want all the ground crew to be amritdhari.

killer !!!!

[HSD*^ 19]

I wonder how some of the people here would feel if they were a pilot in the US or British Air Force and they had to take amphetamines to stay awake and alert for an air battle or bombing campaign that may last for more than 24 hours. Would they refuse the drugs if instead it was a future Khalistan Air Force involved in war against a panthic dusht?

of course they would. these people are idiots. mind you when it comes to it they wouldnt fly in fighter planes because they would want all the ground crew to be amritdhari.

killer !!!!

what?! who did i kill?

[Lion of Punjab 76]

good points in this topic

should be saved

[N30S1NGH 3,183]

normal joe blow like me, don't have time to go over this whole thread, can someone summarize this thread and good points from this thread in point form??

[KhalistaniGunMan 291]

some of these last comments are hillarious...seriously some of these modern jathas are nutty

[Singh559 2,689]

If a time ever came where we needed to fight battles, these things come automatically.

It's like when you get a bacterial infection you can take antibiotics to help the body stop it.

What's the point of bringing up such topics when the end result is jatha bashing/villification/jathafication all whilst we are trying to live as GurSikhs. Nothing but a distraction.

[KhalistaniGunMan 291]

i dont even know why topics like this begin...like really nihangs care what someone behind a keyboard thinks

[akalinihang96 26]

i dont even know why topics like this begin...like really nihangs care what someone behind a keyboard thinks

They can write and talk all they want, no Real Nihang Singh Dal will ever stop the maryada of Shaheedi Degh or jhatka for that matter.

AKJ UK from Derby who recently showed support for Sarabjit Dhunda started a 'petition' ( ha ha ha) to get jhatka stopped at Hazoor Sahib....... Ask them how that has worked out?

[Guru_Da_Chella 20]

Yes ... oki let me give u a very quick itehas oh that battle day ... sikhs knew one day before that next day they will send elephant ... of the strongest sikh whose name came in history as "Dunni Ram" guru sahib told him if they are sending elephant we will also send our elephant to fight him and that to alone ... hearing this dunni ram got afraid (may be he was also againt shahhedi degh) and in the night ran away from anandpur sahib ... but while juming the high walls he broke his hip bone and died ... next day early in the morning when sangat told guru sahib ... that dunni ram tried escaping and died ... guru sahib prepared his smallest sikh ... baba bachitar singh stood only 4'11 ... to fight elephant ... he dressed up did his morning nitname had his degh and then went to fight the elephant ... this is as per sikh history ... but u will hardly find it in sikh history column on the last page of the weekly newspaper ... which is the main source of sikh history of todays youth ...

killer !!!!

some of these last comments are hillarious...seriously some of these modern jathas are nutty

Yep, good replies, to the jathebandi syndrome =D

[jkvlondon 6,893]

why do you all argue, if those that want to be akj's and disregard puratan khalsa warrior traditions let them. Im sure those that dont, will continue to uphold asli puratan maryada. According to rattan singh bhangus panth prakash, the khalsa was created to standardise the warrior, eliminating caste, creed, etc. The rules of the khalsa were simple, 4 kurehata, but how they lived was determined by the activities going on at that period - battle, hiding,etc. They ate meat to survive, and made sukha as a antibiotic as well as a boost. The khalsa(nihangs) are a warrior sect of sikhi, we are lions, dont disregard the truth for something that is within fairy tales.

I guess this is the way it should be, back then all the shaheeds were all nihangs, and they were only a few of them, and theres only a handfull of dalpanth fauja now aswell.

Regardless of this forum, and peoples views everyone is still going to do what they want!!

Khalsa are NOT a sect they are dedicated Gursikhs i.e. what the panth should be .

[JagsawSingh 860]

Wow, these warriors are something arn't they ?

Gurbani's not enough to make them brave.

The sacrifices of the sahibzadeh are not enough to make them.

The martyrdom of their Gurus is not enough to make them brave.

The glorious history of their people is not enough to make them brave.

The suffering of their people is not enough to make them brave.

The shakti of langar is not enough to make them brave.

The communal strength of sangat is not enough to make them brave.

No. These people need DRUGS in order to be brave. For the rest of us, everything above is enough to turn us into chardi kala babbars that laugh in the face of death. But alas the druggie needs his drugs.

Then, to demonstrate how utterly brave, strong and fearless the drugs have made him become he will tie up that biggest, strongest and most dangerous of all wild animals: the Goat......and cut it's head off at one of the 5 most important Sikh gurdwaras.

Pure bravery.

All hail the junkies.