**ardaas Smagam In Rememberance Of 1984 & For The Chardi Kalaa Of The Khalsa Panth And Sant Jarnail Singh Jee Bhindranvale

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[Buv_Singh]

That is soo inspiring Sant Jarnail Singh Jee is still alive. Could someone please give information on where Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsaa Jee are staying, I would love to have their darshan. Also how old are sant jee now and when will they return?

Also are their recordings of baba takur singh jee saying that sant jee is still in chardi kala and if there is can someone please give me link.

http://damdamitaksaal.net/index.php?option...e&Itemid=55

watch the video Baba ji allways said that Sant Ji was alive and will return to lead the panth once again

[khalistan_zindabaad]

Baba Ji's Bachan

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

With the 3rd barsi of Sant Gyani Baba Thakur Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale coming up next month the enviable questions about Baba Ji’s eternal bachan begin to pop up everywhere from Gurudwaras to Internet forums. I have constantly stated that I have no qualms about people doubting or even insulting Baba Ji’s bachan as that sin belongs to them alone. Usually I don’t bother posting anything relating to Baba Ji’s bachan however a brother of mine has requested a small post about it.

Many Sikhs have probably heard the name of Sant Baba Bir Singh Ji Naurangabad. Baba Ji was a soldier in the Khalsa army under the leadership of Maharaja Ranjit Singh Ji.

One time in the town of Panj Tara a group of Pathans had insulted some Sikhs and had begun a rebellion. To subdue this insurgency a battalion of the Khalsa army was dispatched. Baba Bir Singh Ji was included in this battalion.

Baba Ji fought with such courage and valour that he was at the head of the army leading the charge. In the heat of the battle Baba Ji became separated from his brothers in arms. The Pathans seeing the great soldier of Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj alone decided to surround him and kill him. As Baba Ji was fighting off their constant assaults his sword broke in two. The Singhs who saw what had happened lost all hope for his survival as they were too far to reach him.

As the Pathans began to move in for the kill Baba Ji prayed to Akaal Purakh to save him. As Baba Ji uttered this prayer he vanished into thin air and reappeared behind the Khalsa army to lead the charge once again.

Beloved Khalsa of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj it has happened before and according to the will of Akaal Purakh it will happen again.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

www.ikonkaar.blogspot.com

[TeriSharan.]

I think baba Takhur singh means that sant jee will return in another body in his next life. what do u think pyaero khalistan zindabad?

[khalistan_zindabaad]

baba jee stated sant jee was physically in chardi kaallaa... i think you know what i think.

Operation Bluestar

Chronology of Events

Tuesday May 25th

100,000 Indian Army troops are mobilized and deployed throughout Punjab surrounding all important Gurdwaras including the Golden Temple complex.

Friday June 1st

Thousands of pilgrims start to gather at the Golden Temple complex to celebrate the martyrdom anniversary of Guru Arjan Dev on June 3rd.

As Bhindranwale sits on the roof of the Langer hall, police snipers open fire on him. They missed and Sikhs fired back.

A seven hour skirmish during the night lasting until the morning leaves 11 dead and 25 injured. There were bullet holes in the Langer building, in the marble pavement (parkarma) surrounding the Golden Temple and in the Golden Temple itself.

Sunday June 3rd

All communications including phone lines to and from Punjab are cut. Road blocks prevent anyone from entering or leaving Punjab and all journalists are expelled from Punjab. A total curfew is imposed and as many as 10,000 pilgrims are trapped inside the temple complex.

Milk vendors from the villages who supply milk to the city of Amritsar are shot dead for violating the curfew orders.

Monday June 4th

The army starts firing on the temple complex and their is a gun battle lasting 5 hours. Using machine guns and mortars the army fires at Sikh positions at the two 18th century towers called Ramgarhia Bunga's, and the water tank behind Teja Singh Samundri Hall as well as surrounding buildings. At least 100 are killed on both sides.

Tuesday June 5th

At 7:00 p.m. Operation Blue Star, the invasion of The Golden Temple begins with tanks of the 16th Cavalry Regiment of the Indian Army moving to enclose the Golden Temple complex. Troops are briefed not to use their guns against the Golden Temple itself or the Akal Takht. Artillery is used to blast off the tops of the Ramgarhia Bungas and the water tank. Scores of buildings in and around the temple complex are blazing. One artillery shell lands more than 5 km away in the crowded city.

In the narrow alley behind the Akal Takht paramilitary commandos try to get into the temple. Some make it to the roof but are turned back due to the heavy gunfire. Meanwhile tanks move into the square in front of the northern entrance to the Golden Temple known as the clock tower entrance.

At 10:30 pm commandos from the 1st Battalion, the Parachute Regiment try to run down the steps under the clock tower onto the marble parkarma around the sacred pool. They face heavy gunfire, suffering casualties and are forced to retreat. A second wave of commandos manage to neutralize the machine gun posts on either side of the steps and get down to the parkarma.

The Akal Takht is heavily fortified with sandbags and brick gun emplacements in its windows and arches. From here and the surrounding buildings the militants are able to fire at any commandos who make their way in front of the Gurdwara.

Two companies of the 7th Garhwal Rifles enter the temple complex from the opposite side on the southern gate entrance and after a gun battle are able to establish a position on the roof of the Temple library. They are reinforced by two companies of the 15th Kumaons. Repeated unsuccessful attempts are made to storm the Akal Takht.

Wednesday June 6th

After midnight tanks are used to break down the steps leading to the parkarma from the hostel side and an 8-wheeled Polish-built armored personnel carrier makes it's way towards the Akal Takht. It is destroyed by a Chinese-made rocket propelled grenade launcher.

Six or more Vijayanta tanks enter the temple complex crushing the delicate marble inlays of the parkarma and plow their way towards the Akal Takht. Orders arrive and the tanks start firing their large 105mm cannons equipped with high explosive squash-head shells into the Akal Takht. These shells are designed for hard targets like armour and fortifications. When the shells hits a target, their heads spread or squash on the hard surface. Their fuses are arranged to allow a short delay between the impact and the shells igniting, so that a shock-wave passes through the target and a heavy slab of armour or masonry is forced away from the inside of the target armour or fortification.

The effect on the Akal Takht, the most sacred of the five Takhts,

is devastating. Over 80 shells are pumped into the sacred Gurdwara. The entire front of the Takht is destroyed and fires break out in many of the different rooms blackening the marble walls and wrecking the delicate decorations dating back to the time of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Marble inlays, plaster and mirror work, filigree partitions and priceless old wall paintings are all destroyed.

The gold dome of the Akal Takht is also badly damaged by artillery fire. At one stage a 3.7 inch Howell gun is mounted on the roof of a building behind the shrine and fired a number of times at the beautiful dome.

At the other end of the Temple complex on the easternmost side a battalion of the Kumaon Regiment were invading the hostel complex where many of the innocent pilgrims were in hiding as well as the temple administration staff. There was no water because the water tower had been destroyed and it was very hot.

(Bhan Singh, Secretary of S.G.P.C.)

"They cut our electricity and water supplies. It was very hot in the rooms. There was no water. We had only two plastic buckets of water. Longowal had to place two people as guards over the buckets. Many people would squeeze their undershirts to drink their sweat to quench their thirst."

Around 1:00 am the Army entered the hostel and administrative buildings and ordered everyone out and made them sit in the courtyard of the Guru Ram Das Hostel. There were about 250 people who came out.

As night fell the Army troops were given the order to storm the remains of the Akal Takht and shoot on site anyone they found inside. The troops encounter little resistance and find dead bodies and the smell of death everywhere.

Thursday June 7th

In the early hours of the morning the troops discover the bodies of what was thought to be Sant Bhindranwale and his closest followers in the basement of the Akal Takht.

The day was spent in clean up operations flushing out any remaining snipers and collecting the dead bodies. Soldiers were openly walking about the temple in their shoes, drinking alcohol as well as smoking. Blood and bodies were strewn all over the broken marble of the parkarma. With putrefying corpses floating in the sacred pool of nectar and the smell of death everywhere.

The Darshani Deori the entrance gate of the Golden Temple which houses many priceless treasures was destroyed and looted. Although fighting had now died down, the central library complex was mysteriously burned down. Many priceless manuscripts, some in the Gurus own handwriting were lost forever.

The number of people who lost their lives will never be known. The Army refused to let the Red Cross enter the complex and cremated the dead before the bodies could be identified or claimed by their families. The Amritsar municipal sweepers refused to clear the dead bodies away but were eventually persuaded by offers of rum and being allowed to strip the bodies of all valuables. They piled the dead into garbage trucks and unceremoniously cremated them. Family members were not allowed by the army to claim the remains or perform any traditional funeral rites. It is clear that thousands lost their lives in the Temple complex.

Elsewhere across Punjab hundreds of Sikhs were killed in the army operation at the same time which saw 42 Gurdwaras raided at the same time as the Golden Temple, including high casualties at Moga, Mukatsar, Faridkot, Patiala, Ropar and Chowk Mehta.

Aftermath

Kar Seva is the ceremonial cleaning of the sacred pool is normally undertaken every 50 years. A special Kar Seva was undertaken in 1985 to replace some of the damage. Tens of thousands of Sikhs participated and the sacred pool of nectar was completely drained and cleaned.

Restoration work has taken 15 years to complete. The Akal Takht has been entirely rebuilt. The marble of the parkarma has been replaced in sections with new marble. Repair work on Harmandir Sahib included reguilding the temple dome and walls with new gold. The Ramgharia Bungas have been repaired and Teja Singh Samundri Hall has been left, pockmarked with bullet holes as a reminder of the tragedy.

What was one of the darkest chapters of Sikh history, reminiscent of the persecution the Sikhs faced at the hands of the Mughals has acted like a lightening rod for all Sikhs. It should not be viewed as a cause of incitement of hatred, but rather as a jolting reminder to Sikhs that they cannot take the existence of their religion for granted. As caretakers of the Sikh religion, it is up to Sikhs to actively participate and make sure that the message of the Gurus and the Sikh religion survives and grows, overcoming any and all adversities.

www.neverforget84.com

[TeriSharan.]

How old is sant jarnail singh jee now?

[khalistan_zindabaad]

D.O.B 1947

[Buv_Singh]

How old is sant jarnail singh jee now?

Gurfateh

I think you are forgetting the history of Damdami Taksaal, it doesn’t matter how old Sant ji may be, how old was Baba Deep Singh Ji, Bhai Mani Singh Ji, Baba Gurbaksh Singh ji when they lead the Panth.

With Guru’s Kirpa Sant Ji will return to lead the panth, its up to you to make your own mind up, if you believe it or not. I have heard the bachan from Baba ji personally, and as Sant ji said never go against Baba ji bachan.

If you respect Sant Jarnail Singh ji you should respect Baba ji’s Bachan

[khalistan_zindabaad]

[Aparadhee]

"plz dont cause controversy on this thread, if you have any issues, pm me or contact the website"

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k_z funny how you ask for no one to cause controversy yet you use this thread while advertising a programme to spread your own views publically which you know may be seen as controversial by other members. all of your posts on this thread are centred around baba jarnail singh ji being in chardi kala etc etc,

why did you start this thread? to advertise the programme or just to spread your views on this controversial topic? its pretty clear that not much advertising is going on.

"With the 3rd barsi of Sant Gyani Baba Thakur Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale coming up next month the enviable questions about Baba Ji’s eternal bachan begin to pop up everywhere from Gurudwaras to Internet forums."

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yh and this time it looks like you "pro sant ji chardi kala" jatha have made sure this debate continues by provoking it yourselves! seriously you guys got nothing better to do? you start the debate, then when the other side gives their views (which you insist shouldnt be posted publicly but through pm) you accuse them of being slanderers

if baba thakur singh was here today i dont think he would be very happy with the way you act k_z,

from alot of your posts you seem to be a trouble maker on this forum and others, i think alot of other members would agree aswel.