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Would you feel comfortable in the Darbaar Sahib if you're sitting surrounded by Bibiyan?...

Don't think you will...Because you'll feel that they are staring at you...You won't be able to concentrate on the keertan at all...You'll be thinking rubbish things...

Moreover, Bibiya need more privacy...They can have little babies with them whom they might need to feed...In a full Darbaar, if your baby is crying, you can't just ignore him for the 10 minutes or so that you'll need take to get out of the darbaar hall...You'll want to shush him/her up so the sangat doesn't get disturbed...

It's all about concentration...Male/Female factor kicks in...

PLus....

SOme people may be really lusty (forgive the language)there...YOU SEE how that is insulting in presence of Maharaj ji?

I'm sorry for everything wrong said...

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By making men and women sit opposite sides, doesn't mean anybodys unequal. That would be the case if men got to sit in a higher postion, where the women have to sit lower. If it was something like that then that could be considered unequal. I think we sit opposite sides to keep the tension between male and females down. I mean each side of the hall usually .has equal space on it. Its not like men have a bigger area to sit on

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this practise seems to be influenced by punjabi culture in relation to social interaction and etiquette between males and females .already in house satsangs the world over, men and women sit together quite often .i find it hard to justify it from a religous point of view .

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To be honest i don't think we should really care. It is good that men and women are kept seperate, this avoids lustful thoughs, and you can concentrate on the reason you are suppose to be at the Gurdwara for. Instead of wasting time thinking about irrelevant things, we should jap naam, and ask God why this happens. Because, does it seriously bother you so much that you can't get to sleep because of it?

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I think its just practical. Think about it, especially when you have hundreds, even thousands of sangataa, you don't want any chance for there to be any 'hanky panky' goin on or some 'looking' or any of that.. Its most simple to keep men and women separated... Best to stop something (or at least limit greatly) from happening before it does...

its no biggie though.. at the end of the day, our focus should be on Guru Sahib anywayz... not about who's sittin where or whatever... all these petty little things just distract us from the real important things...

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It isn't exactly a burning issue for most of us because as many posters have said, our focus at the Gurdwara is on Gurbani. However, it is a question that young people and non-Sikhs ask often, nothing wrong with that. In my experience, it is an English invention. From the 1950's onwards when Punjabi's began to congregate in England en masse and build more Gurdwara's, the idea of dividing men and women to 2 sides became more popular. In Punjab, everybody still sits together in my local pind Gurdwara as they do at most larger Gurdwara's such as Darbar Sahib Harmandir Sahib, if you can actually get somewhere to sit that is! I've also seen photographs from California as early as the 1900's where men and women were sitting in the congregation together. Perhaps somebody with access to Stockton Gurdwara or Shepherds Bush Gurdwara could look for some early photographs to support OR contradict this?!

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I think separation is good - sensible cause most everybody is not a couple in Gurdwara or any other temple. I'm muslim & they make us

sit separately mainly because of distraction & lust - our main FOCUS & concentration Dhiaan should be on GOD - nowhere else, except 4 women

with babies or little kids - PLEASE keep a tight eye on them. I saw one running out of Gurudwara into the streets & thank GOD I knew his

mother & yelled 2 her or else the child would had easily been lost. God made women exceptionally beautiful & it's only human for men to look at them

but it makes it so hard 4 them to concentrate @ Gurudwara or masjid - BIG distraction with their beauty & beautiful clothes SO I'm sure U can imagine

what us beauties do to the men - Annnnnd, they're the ones leading the katha's, kirtans & prayers. I mean = I'm a woman & I go to

Gurudwara & easily get carried away looking @ all the beautiful Salwaar that ladies wear - it dosen't just have to be lust, the colors are

so beautiful that they're mesmerizing. I think this is a very good ritual , especially at temple. Everywhere else, I don't care but I think

it makes sense @ temple or masjid so we can concentrate only on GOD !!! What do U think ???

Because I've been to masjid, mandir, Gurdwara & church & the females are checking out males so don't U think males will be looking.

I went 2 mandir with my aunt & she's over there eyeing married men & bothering me cause she thinks he's looking @ her & not

paying attention at all 2 pooja. I've seen this all over & I think it's an excellent idea. But I must say, I took my son 2 Gurudara with me

& he didn't know anything about SIkh religion & didn't want 2 sit alone so I went & sat with him on mens side so I could explain the

nightly prayer 2 him - otherwise he would be just sitting there not understanding much about the religion. SO, I say if you're a couple,

it should be okay 2 sit together but please follow rules of the temple & don't Naraaz anyone. I know about Gurudwara so I just went

ahead & sat with my son but at a new temple, I would ask if it's okay 1st. At El Sobrante, I see some people sit together & no problem -

I LOVE our Gurudwara - very easy going & so PEACEFUL - can sit there for hours.

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