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well, i had to post this on here as I'm really concerned about the girls in our community in this modern society. They are so out of hands and it makes me so upset seeing them half naked and doing awful lot of stuff with guys. I was wondering if something could be done and us people can bring them into sikhi because my heart rips seeing them like this. I'm not here to guide them or anything but I was hoping if something, anything can be done to bring them into the light.

I wasn't really going to post this on here but after what I saw today I felt I need my Sikh brothers and sisters to help them out, because they really need some.

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hey hey bro u r right... bt i thin not only girls bt whole 80% of punjabi community is patit... in this time all we can do is ardas.....

"JAGAT JALANDA RAKH LAI APNI KIRPA DHAAR"... racist r in our own community... wat else we can expect frm outside...... waheguruuu kirpa kare... may bless em wit some brain......

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I'm a penjiee :D

why i posted this issue up is that other people laugh at us, saying that people within your religion dont respect sikhi so why expect it of us ?? what i'm trying to say is that these girls are just setting bad example to the next generatioon, and call them sikhs and not keep kesh and follow guru shaib ji's hukam. May waheguru do kirpa and bless tehm with naam, bana , banni , seva , simran and truth :D

but i urge also sikhs to do ardass for the lost ones and ask guru ji to bless them tooo and make them realise what they doing is wrong

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The answer lies in reaching out ,reaching out ,reaching out .This was a rampant problem in malaysia in the 80s .Thankfully ,the sikh naujawan sabha worked out a whole amount of huge sikh youth camps that helped to curb this problem,amongst others .Youth keertan and parchar jethas were encouraged too ,to tour gurudwaras and also weekly evening youth programmes started to be organised .Also sikh societies started across the country for sikh students in schools ,colleges and universities .Hence a whole generation of young sikhs came into contact with gurmat and sikhi and many many got baptised .this continues till today .

Amritdhari young sikhs have to try to stop focussing on their faith just on their own individual level , trapped by issues concerning maryada and jethas ,confining themselves to socialising within their comfort zone circle of friends who are like-minded . Our mission has to be ,to connect ,connect ,connect to those who are lost .Yound people ought to utilise their energetic ,impulsive ,creative ,excitable ,exploratative ,keen eager minds to work out how they could be focal points for sikhi parchar within their families,relatives ,neighbourhood ,and places of study .

Sikhi parchar does not mean you need to go up to someone and condemn them upfront for anything they wear or do .Its more about being a non -judgemental friend to those of your age -group who are lost ,gaining their respect and trust ,as a good listener ,a kind soul ,a humble person who cares and prays for them . Think of ways and means of befriending such sikh youths who are lost so they can be your friends .Sometimes a smile is all it takes before a stranger says hello and becomes a friend .Sometimes it may take you to strike a small random conversation with a stranger and end up as your friend .Never feel shy or unbothered to reach out to people who need GURUJEE .Always carry little pamphlets/spare simran cds ,eyc in yur rucksack/gym bag/handbag ,wallet so u have someting to give if the need arises .

If you are walking on the street in southall and you suddenly see 5 sikh girls dressed up indecent and on their way to clubbing in central london ,dont just look at them and get intimidated and horrified and get disheartened .Maybe put yur hands together and wish them sat sri akal or something to trigger something in their consciousness ,or if you are brave enough start a polite conversation and see where it goes .The aim is to reach out ,reach out .reach out .A small humble friendship with a random person can easily end up with that person becoming a baptised amritdhari sikh easily sometimes .This is my experience .Never ever fear approaching a sikh to be his/her friend .Dont appear irrelevant but be with them at their level and gently bring them to your level .Humble beginnings can end up with great endings.

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It's within all religions, believe me. But i think in a society where there are no moral restrictions and its a selfish culture then some girls will be raised in that environment or get influenced to partake in negative aspects of a free society. It usually is down to the family and friends she has. If a gal respects her families honour and her parents because they love and support her then she is less likely to want to go againt their wishes and get drawn into posing half naked in clubs, drinking, smoking, shaving sex before marriage. If on the other hand you got parents who couldnt care less and always putting down the child then she is more likely to get drawn to bad influences.

So education and influence starts at home first, it lays the foundation of how your kids will think and behave.

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West London is an area here a lot of kuria need to sort them selfs out, stop drinking smoking and going clubs and going back with munde................

but in my experience having tried explaining to a close girl mate why not to date a muslim guy who's 4times older then year, she goes what do you know, you don't know him go away etc

they don't care about what they look like to other people what other people think of them what there parents are going to say, till the guy goes off with another girl hes found then the girl crys wolf...........

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Many people in the world now have become atheist, they do not see what religion has to offer, how it benifits them. So ofcourse they are not going to follow it. "Why not cut our hair? Why can't we drink alcohol? Why can't we go clubbing and have a ciggerate?" Thats all they are going to think about. Because if they stop these things, they are going to get depressed and that they "can't enjoy life." Just like if you asked someone to start reading gurbani, and because they don't see the benefit straight away they are just going to quit after a while, and go back to their old ways.

Its the same with all the activities they do, they think that it is "fun" and that theres no better lifestyle. They haven't experienced the goodness of religion. And can you blame them, because most religions now force it upon their children, and they don't like it. You should let them discover it for themselves. Don't be a teacher, just a guide. If parent of these children were perfect, always happy, never stressed because of religion, only then can their children see it. What i mean is the elders need to set an example. Be role models.

Most people just think going to the Gurdwara every so often, will really help them. But most of the time they don't even remember God in their mind.

Alot of children now just see religion as being corrupt, the cause of wars, excuse for getting lots of money. I mean look at the pope. Some people just decide to go in the business side of religion just to get some money.

If you go up to anyone in the street, and ask them what is the purpose of life? Their answer will be "I don't know. or to get a job and a house" Most people are confused. "whats the point in worshiping God, I went to the Gurdwara/church/mosque whatever and i didn't see any change in my life." Thats what most youth and alot of adults are thinking, they are all confused. In sikhi for example say if a Sikh who cuts their hair, and sees another Sikh with a turban getting bullied, abused never gets a girlfriend or whatever, they are going to think, hey what the point in wearing a turban, it doesn't help. Partly because the turban wearer himself doesn't even know why to wear one. It was just that his parents told him to so he does. Not even he sees the benefit. And I know that things like this do happen.

So the point is people don't think religion is real, people don't think God is real. Because they don't see the benefits, they don't have full faith in God. If someone is in hospital, or if you want a certain team to win a football match or whatever, or if you are in pain, who is the first who call upon for help? It is God, they only remember God when they are in suffering.

But you should remember God at all times. Most people want to take stuff from God, without giving anything to him. But to receive you always should give. When people prayer to God, they make a shopping list, of things they want to take, but they HAVENT GIVEN ANYTHING TO HIM. You have to surrender yourself, give your ego, anger lust, greed and attachment, become Gods slave.

But if i told someone that they are going to think, "Get lost, you are telling me im worth dirt, well screw you, i am the most superior" They are jsut going to think like that and let their ego get in the way. They think they can aqquire happiness, their own way. But true happiness comes from God's way. If i told someone, one who follows God, remains happy in all ages, enemies cannot touch even their shadow and that they will forever remain protected, they will think it is BS.

They are very confused. I think because of the way the world is run, by politics, and money. Its all about selfishness. To get to the top jobs and positions in this world, with lots of money, which people think will get them happiness, you have to eliminate everyone else. Like in a football match to win the league, you have to beat everyone else to get to the top. But in politics this means you have to be selfish, you may form temporary alliances, only to break it up after you have used them and taken advantage of them. And the reason, to get rich, FOR YOURSELF, selfishness. People think that you just go to school, then you get a job and die. Which is true, but its not suppose to be that way, They are wasting their lives in love for mammon.

What you can do is educate, only by setting an example, if you say all these things but they don't see it in you, then they are going to think you are false, and you are talking BS.

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Many people in the world now have become atheist, they do not see what religion has to offer, how it benifits them. So ofcourse they are not going to follow it. "Why not cut our hair? Why can't we drink alcohol? Why can't we go clubbing and have a ciggerate?" Thats all they are going to think about. Because if they stop these things, they are going to get depressed and that they "can't enjoy life." Just like if you asked someone to start reading gurbani, and because they don't see the benefit straight away they are just going to quit after a while, and go back to their old ways.

Its the same with all the activities they do, they think that it is "fun" and that theres no better lifestyle. They haven't experienced the goodness of religion. And can you blame them, because most religions now force it upon their children, and they don't like it. You should let them discover it for themselves. Don't be a teacher, just a guide. If parent of these children were perfect, always happy, never stressed because of religion, only then can their children see it. What i mean is the elders need to set an example. Be role models.

Most people just think going to the Gurdwara every so often, will really help them. But most of the time they don't even remember God in their mind.

Alot of children now just see religion as being corrupt, the cause of wars, excuse for getting lots of money. I mean look at the pope. Some people just decide to go in the business side of religion just to get some money.

If you go up to anyone in the street, and ask them what is the purpose of life? Their answer will be "I don't know. or to get a job and a house" Most people are confused. "whats the point in worshiping God, I went to the Gurdwara/church/mosque whatever and i didn't see any change in my life." Thats what most youth and alot of adults are thinking, they are all confused. In sikhi for example say if a Sikh who cuts their hair, and sees another Sikh with a turban getting bullied, abused never gets a girlfriend or whatever, they are going to think, hey what the point in wearing a turban, it doesn't help. Partly because the turban wearer himself doesn't even know why to wear one. It was just that his parents told him to so he does. Not even he sees the benefit. And I know that things like this do happen.

So the point is people don't think religion is real, people don't think God is real. Because they don't see the benefits, they don't have full faith in God. If someone is in hospital, or if you want a certain team to win a football match or whatever, or if you are in pain, who is the first who call upon for help? It is God, they only remember God when they are in suffering.

But you should remember God at all times. Most people want to take stuff from God, without giving anything to him. But to receive you always should give. When people prayer to God, they make a shopping list, of things they want to take, but they HAVENT GIVEN ANYTHING TO HIM. You have to surrender yourself, give your ego, anger lust, greed and attachment, become Gods slave.

But if i told someone that they are going to think, "Get lost, you are telling me im worth dirt, well screw you, i am the most superior" They are jsut going to think like that and let their ego get in the way. They think they can aqquire happiness, their own way. But true happiness comes from God's way. If i told someone, one who follows God, remains happy in all ages, enemies cannot touch even their shadow and that they will forever remain protected, they will think it is BS.

They are very confused. I think because of the way the world is run, by politics, and money. Its all about selfishness. To get to the top jobs and positions in this world, with lots of money, which people think will get them happiness, you have to eliminate everyone else. Like in a football match to win the league, you have to beat everyone else to get to the top. But in politics this means you have to be selfish, you may form temporary alliances, only to break it up after you have used them and taken advantage of them. And the reason, to get rich, FOR YOURSELF, selfishness. People think that you just go to school, then you get a job and die. Which is true, but its not suppose to be that way, They are wasting their lives in love for mammon.

What you can do is educate, only by setting an example, if you say all these things but they don't see it in you, then they are going to think you are false, and you are talking BS.

there are lots of clean shaven guys who get bullied, dont get girlfriends etc, clean shaven guys are portrayed as drug dealers, child molesters etc on tv and movies..........so im glad im not clean shaven!!!!! so why go there and say sikh guys in turbans get bullied all the time or arent proud of it (the turban)..........also........these women who hate turban guys.......why is that when they get used an abused they wana all of a sudden marry a turban guy........all these people can go to hell as far as im concerned they turned their back on their Guru and im supposed to have sympathy for them! :@ clean shaven people neva go up to real sikhs to iniate conversation they just insult us......lets deal with the problem its not just sikh girls but also the guys who act like slags! and also muslims, hindus and christians peoples children behave like this way tooo!!!! sadly most of these lost sikhs will only turn to their Guru when their life has been destroyed or when they have had their reputation ruined esp. the girl has been labled a slag etc.......

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