Question On Ardas

[guptveer1469]

I know, PJS said that we actually by saying that line remember aswell the puratan shaheeds aswell as the new ones..

But i meant we should add lines of the GHALLUGHARA = OPERATION BLUE STAR = descecration of our holiest shrine in our ardaas everyday.

[.- Prabhjot Singh -.]

I know, PJS said that we actually by saying that line remember aswell the puratan shaheeds aswell as the new ones..

But i meant we should add lines of the GHALLUGHARA = OPERATION BLUE STAR = descecration of our holiest shrine in our ardaas everyday.

Wjkk Wjkf Sunny Veer Jeo,

Although I am not capable of even discussing panthic decisions, but let me say this that when we do ardaas we can add whatever we feel is appropriate as a benti in the feet of Akaal Purakh Waheguru Ji. According to my limited understanding, Guru Gobind Sahib Ji's arjoi is a pure must, rest is apni sharadaa. Its often seen people 'criticise' different forms of ardaas done at different Gurdwaras, but as long as Bhaugati Di Vaar is there, rest isnt gurbani, its a simple request in the feet of the Waheguru so what difference it makes what we request, there shouldnt be formality in talking to Akaal Purakh, but then, formalising it in Gutkas is an issue that learned members of the sangat can address, I certainly have no understanding regarding this..

Sorry if Ive something that is inappropriate!

Fateh jeo!

[.- Prabhjot Singh -.]

^ Extending the point pjs has brought up, Why are shaheeds of 84 any more important that shaheeds of the past?

Wjkk Wjkf TubeLIght Veer Jeo

Sorry, I almost missed your post, this thread view is really annoying. Anyway, veer jeo, whats your real name? pm me it sometime if you want to remain gupt

You raised an interesting point. Singhs back in the days faced extreme prejudices and still didnt give their sidak, and modern day Shaheeds face different form of implicit, sometimes metaphorical prejudices, their shaheedis are equally important too. Giving your life for the defense of the faith is something that requires extreme devotion and love for the panth, this kind of bir rass is only in Sant Sipahis, our utmost respect to everyone whos done their bit for the panth.

Fateh Jeo!

[guptveer1469]

I know, PJS said that we actually by saying that line remember aswell the puratan shaheeds aswell as the new ones..

But i meant we should add lines of the GHALLUGHARA = OPERATION BLUE STAR = descecration of our holiest shrine in our ardaas everyday.

Wjkk Wjkf Sunny Veer Jeo,

Although I am not capable of even discussing panthic decisions, but let me say this that when we do ardaas we can add whatever we feel is appropriate as a benti in the feet of Akaal Purakh Waheguru Ji. According to my limited understanding, Guru Gobind Sahib Ji's arjoi is a pure must, rest is apni sharadaa. Its often seen people 'criticise' different forms of ardaas done at different Gurdwaras, but as long as Bhaugati Di Vaar is there, rest isnt gurbani, its a simple request in the feet of the Waheguru so what difference it makes what we request, there shouldnt be formality in talking to Akaal Purakh, but then, formalising it in Gutkas is an issue that learned members of the sangat can address, I certainly have no understanding regarding this..

Sorry if Ive something that is inappropriate!

Fateh jeo!

Nah veerji

U make complete sense

But u know, there is a kind off 'standard' version of Ardaas. The one that you would find in Gutka Sahibs etc. I mean that one to be changed. Indeed, i each time after ardaas, add things like

"DELHI TAKHT TE BAITHEGI, AAP GURU DI FAUJ,

SHATTAR JHOOLENGE SEES PAR, BOHAT HOVEGI MAUJ"

But indeed the first part should remain the one of Vaar Sri Bhagauti Ji Ki.

[dhan_teri_sikhi]

Hazoor sahib ardaas is difficult

Nihang Ardas can take upto one hour (at harian vela)

i like the nanaksar ardaas

But most go by the short SGPC version

the bhagauti vaar is a must in all ardas. I don't like it when they start calling out all the names of people and how much money and rashan they donate. This should be all GUPT.

[Papi]

Sorry, I almost missed your post, this thread view is really annoying. Anyway, veer jeo, whats your real name? pm me it sometime if you want to remain gupt

If you ignore the " " that sounds like a threat :lol:

[.- Prabhjot Singh -.]

Sorry, I almost missed your post, this thread view is really annoying. Anyway, veer jeo, whats your real name? pm me it sometime if you want to remain gupt

If you ignore the " " that sounds like a threat :lol:

Wjkk Wjkf Jeo,

if you ignore the :lol: it sounds like youve taken offense

[Papi]

LOLLLL :LOLz:

good one !!!

[Guroo Guroo Jaap]

Modern day Ardas's include:

"Dhan Bhad Mr Sandhu Di New BMW"

and at my Gurdwara....

"Sadar Sandhu Singh........ Ten Pond (pound)

Sadar Pannu Singh....... Punj Pond

Sadar Gill Singh Ji Sahib....... Tin Pond

Sadar Jarnail Singh........ Drink'ah Di Seva"

:D

[tec9]

is it true that the ardas is not cited from Guru Granth Sahab?

also, who created the ardas, and what is the meaning behind it; why do we recite it?

forgive me as i do not know what the words in the ardas mean, despite having heard it many times.

the ardass is by the tenth master and it should be left as he intended!! I am sure it was thought out it full it should never have been changed! When it was written there where sikh shaaheds but Guru Gobind Singh Ji never added but we have felt at liberty to add on what we like. I disagree with any shaahed singhs being added as this is not what the guru intended us to do as he could have done so with ease!!!