All Bhagat's, Whose Bani Is In Sggs Were Sikhs?

[Bundha]

The bhagats were jeevan mukhat and attained a place in Satch-Khand, but when Guru Sahib Ji came down to earth to prepare the Khalsa then all sorts of Bhagats and devtays wanted to come down as well. Bhai Dhaya Singh was no ordinary person even before he gave his head, Bhai Dharam Singh ji was no ordinary person before he put his head forward, they were all kumai walley before then. I think Bhagat Dhunna Ji came down as Bhai Dhaya Singh as well as Bhagat Namdev Ji and so on. Even Guru Jis horse Neela and Baaj were no ordinary randomly chosen souls, these were close companions of Guru Ji and even now are always with Guru Ji.

[khalistan_zindabaad]

Just for your information

Correct me if the below is wrong (if you have read it)

Sant Gurbachan Singh Jee states in Gurbani Paat Darpan

The panj pyareh were Avtaars of

Bhagat Nam Dev Jee

Bhagat Dhanna Jee

Bhagat Sain Jee

Lauu De Avtaar

I forgot the last bhagat.

When Akaal Purkh decided that they would give amrit and make this the maryada of the panth, the bhagats also wanted to take amrit and keep the maryada, hence they came down as avtaars in the roop of panj pyaareh (beleive it or not, it happened - end of debate )

[guptveer1469]

All that makes sense, but things like they only got mukt after Shakking Amrit, is wrong.

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKF

[sunny_love_kirtan]

who says dat?

[guptveer1469]

Many people do say that.

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKF

[xHarinder_singh]

There is only 1 Satguru jee and Satguru jee can give amrit in nirankaar form as well. When Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee were in jail, there was a very bhagat soul with him who was desperate to be blessed with amrit. Bhai Sahib told him to do ardaas. He did ardaas and Satguru gave him amrit and he started to do gurmantar abhiyaas non-stop. Regarding the bhagats, all of them got amrit from Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj jee. Some of them would have got charan pahul amrit and some of them would have got nirankaar amrit.

In order to meet Waheguru, one has to get the "yes" from Satguru and Satguru says yes by giving amrit. There is/was/only 1 Satguru.

[xHarinder_singh]

Just to add a few more thoughts, I feel there is a STRONG POSSIBILITY that Satguru gave amrit to Mian Mir and Pir Budhu Shah as well. Satguru when in body can give amrit via amrit drishti or physical touch as well....

If a muslim follows the good aspects of Islam and surenders himself to Dashmesh Pita and gifts his 5 sons, cant Dashmesh Pita(who is the King of kings) give him amrit via drishti ???????????????????????????????????????

These days sikhs spend a large amount of time of their lives reading historical books and believe everything written. But we need to remember that the khel of Satguru IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION.

[guptveer1469]

Just to add a few more thoughts, I feel there is a STRONG POSSIBILITY that Satguru gave amrit to Mian Mir and Pir Budhu Shah as well. Satguru when in body can give amrit via amrit drishti or physical touch as well....

If a muslim follows the good aspects of Islam and surenders himself to Dashmesh Pita and gifts his 5 sons, cant Dashmesh Pita(who is the King of kings) give him amrit via drishti ???????????????????????????????????????

These days sikhs spend a large amount of time of their lives reading historical books and believe everything written. But we need to remember that the khel of Satguru IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION.

To your last paragraph: does this mean that we shouldn't care about our history, do no efforts to preserve it and let others DESTROY our golden history?

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKF

[xHarinder_singh]

Just to add a few more thoughts, I feel there is a STRONG POSSIBILITY that Satguru gave amrit to Mian Mir and Pir Budhu Shah as well. Satguru when in body can give amrit via amrit drishti or physical touch as well....

If a muslim follows the good aspects of Islam and surenders himself to Dashmesh Pita and gifts his 5 sons, cant Dashmesh Pita(who is the King of kings) give him amrit via drishti ???????????????????????????????????????

These days sikhs spend a large amount of time of their lives reading historical books and believe everything written. But we need to remember that the khel of Satguru IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION.

To your last paragraph: does this mean that we shouldn't care about our history, do no efforts to preserve it and let others DESTROY our golden history?

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKF

Historical texts shud be used to get motivation(to keep rehit and japp naam). Historical texts have lots of mistakes in them(due to delibrate or careless mistakes of historians). Ideally the panth shud select 5 high avasta singhs, collect all historical text books and pull out the correct history from the literature.

The present day "scholars" are just confusing the sikh youth.

Sri Gur Katha Granth written by Bhai Jaita Jee shud be delcared the most authentic historical text. After Sri Gur Katha Granth, writings of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Jee and Bhai Veer Singh Jee shud be the second most authentic gurmat literature.

[guptveer1469]

True that. But is Sri Gur Katha authentic? (i.e. really written by Bhai Jaita Ji)

Kathas of Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji, Kartar Singh Ji and Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale, should be preserved and also noted down in series.

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

WJKK WJKF