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LOL ok lets break this down. sarpanch u stated " hen burned a saroop of Guru Maharaj as namdhari scripts says so"

the story of this is that when guru ram singh ji left the army and found out that the sikhs were out of their rehat drinking alcohol consuming meat and found ad granth shaib ji in cupboards covered with dirt and dust eaten by rats no respect was sown to ad granth sahib ji. guru ram singh ji himself cleaned the place and the ad granth sahib ji with his own dastar and created a prper place for parkash when read from. the sikhs in punjab diddent have any pyar and no faith in bani. a guru shows miracles "kautakh) when needed. just like guru tegh bhadur ji who showed kautek when "Pothi Sahib (known today as the Kartarpur Bir) was kept by the Sixth Master Guru Hargobind in his house. From here it was stolen by his grandson Dhir Mal who intended to use it to further his claims on the succession of the Guruship. Some thirty years later the followers of the Ninth Master, Guru Tegh Bahadur forcibly recovered it, but were instructed by the Guru to return it. They placed it in the shallow river bed of the Satluj River. From here Dhir Mal recovered it, miraculously it was undamaged. "

guur ram singh prepared a funeral pyre an placed the ad grath sahib on top of it. when the fire had fully burned out he took the granth sahib out and the sikhs saw that it was in perfect condition not a scratch or burn anywhere. he then sahid that this is how powerfu te gurus bani is. just like during guru tegh bhadur jis time when the ad granth sahib ji was placed under te river it was undamaged.

this was only done by the gururs kirpa if any ordinary person was to do that the same results would not have been seen.

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WaheguruJiKaKhalsa WaheguruJiKiFateh.

Haha, nice joke. Your title "Who Were Some Great Sikh Freedom Fighters", Udham Singh etc. was not a Sikh Freedom fighter, he was a Indian Freedom Fighter, there is a difference between Indian and Sikh... Is he was a Sikh Freedom fighter we would have Khalistan, not staying in Corrupted, Racist India.

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

Gurufateh g

missing one thing

Khalsa is meant to fight against the tyrants for the opressed

first the moguls were tyrants and Sikh freedom fighters fought them

then the british were the tryants and Sikh freedom fighters like SAheehed Bhagat SIngh ji (who became a SIkh inspired by Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji) fought them

today the hinduvata gov is the tyrant and we need more freedom fighters liek Sant ji

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LOL ok lets break this down. sarpanch u stated " hen burned a saroop of Guru Maharaj as namdhari scripts says so"

the story of this is that when guru ram singh ji left the army and found out that the sikhs were out of their rehat drinking alcohol consuming meat and found ad granth shaib ji in cupboards covered with dirt and dust eaten by rats no respect was sown to ad granth sahib ji. guru ram singh ji himself cleaned the place and the ad granth sahib ji with his own dastar and created a prper place for parkash when read from. the sikhs in punjab diddent have any pyar and no faith in bani. a guru shows miracles "kautakh) when needed. just like guru tegh bhadur ji who showed kautek when "Pothi Sahib (known today as the Kartarpur Bir) was kept by the Sixth Master Guru Hargobind in his house. From here it was stolen by his grandson Dhir Mal who intended to use it to further his claims on the succession of the Guruship. Some thirty years later the followers of the Ninth Master, Guru Tegh Bahadur forcibly recovered it, but were instructed by the Guru to return it. They placed it in the shallow river bed of the Satluj River. From here Dhir Mal recovered it, miraculously it was undamaged. "

guur ram singh prepared a funeral pyre an placed the ad grath sahib on top of it. when the fire had fully burned out he took the granth sahib out and the sikhs saw that it was in perfect condition not a scratch or burn anywhere. he then sahid that this is how powerfu te gurus bani is. just like during guru tegh bhadur jis time when the ad granth sahib ji was placed under te river it was undamaged.

this was only done by the gururs kirpa if any ordinary person was to do that the same results would not have been seen.

can u prove to us that according to namdhari written history, Ram singh recovered the Guru Granth sahib from the fire?

Because if u cannot show us written proof of this within namdhari history, then that means that Ram singh did infact Burn the Guru Granth sahib and what u are telling us is just an elaborate cover up/excuse.

I'd like to see you prove your claim. Show us where it is written within namdhari history that this was done in the mannor which u say?

Because from what I've learned, ram singh ran off from the sikh army , Threw his guns into the river and then Burned the Guru Granth sahib and also was claiming Guruship for himself.

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a granth has been compiled similar like the sau sakhis called Satguru Bilas Patshahi Barvi written by Sant Dhian Singhji.

guru ram singh ji did not claim the guur ship himself which is a misinterpretation you have mentioned in your post above. According to namdhari history he was given the gururship by gurur balak singh ji with the guru tradition of placing a coconut and 5 paise. In 1841 A.D. Satguruji, along with His military friends went to Pashaur. Their journey directed them to cross through the city of Hazro where Satguruji Heard about Sri Satguru Balak Singh Ji and decided to Pay a Visit in order to receive Satguru Balak Singh Ji's Darshan. when gurur balak singh ji saw guru ram singh ji ( at this time gurur ram singh ji was not appointed guruship) Satguru Balak Singh Ji stood up and embraced Him saying that He has been waiting for Thakurji(Satguru Ram Singh Ji). Satguru Balak Singh Ji Gave Gurmantar to Satguru Ram Singh Ji as well as about 25 of His military friends that were present with Him and after Seating Satguruji on The Throne, He bowed down at Satguru Ram Singh Ji's Feet according to The GurMaryada with a coconut and 5 Paise and Transferred The Gurgaddi which He received from Sri Satguru Gobind Singh Ji to Sri Satguru Ram Singh Ji. Then He explained to the Sangat that it was Satguru Gobind Singh Ji Himself who Ordered that He would be back to retreive His Amanat(Belonging) in The Form of Sri Satguru Ram Singh Ji. the following information can be found at namdhari faith web. whether or not you concider guru ram singh as a guru or not he has done a lot for the sikh dharam also known as te kooka movement. it is a shame that sikhs freedom struggle have not been fully accounted and praised for in today’s India where the so called "mahtma" ghandi is gioven all credit for his work even when he was indirectly related with the British at that time and got the non coporation movement form guru ram singh ji who had first started this.

one must realise that why arent sikhs fully recognised for their fredom struggle in india. is gurur ram singh ji mentioned in indian history, is akali phoola singh ji mentioned in indian history etc. same goes with the maleer kotla and amritsar shaheed singhs.

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stop referring to this mortal"ram singh" as Guru, the Guru is now and forever will be the Guru Granth Sahib, and the namdhari cult is basically a glorified dera just like all the other stupid deras with babeh. namdharis are not Sikhs for they do not take Guru Granth Sahib as tehir Guru, they take some random man.

by definition namdharis are not Sikhs

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stop referring to this mortal"ram singh" as Guru, the Guru is now and forever will be the Guru Granth Sahib, and the namdhari cult is basically a glorified dera just like all the other stupid deras with babeh. namdharis are not Sikhs for they do not take Guru Granth Sahib as tehir Guru, they take some random man.

by definition namdharis are not Sikhs

hey, I have been reading about namdhari's...

ill give my conclusion in a few days but until then no one can determine who is sikh and who isn't...

Only Guru Nanak Dev ji sachay patshah nirankar ji!

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stop referring to this mortal"ram singh" as Guru, the Guru is now and forever will be the Guru Granth Sahib, and the namdhari cult is basically a glorified dera just like all the other stupid deras with babeh. namdharis are not Sikhs for they do not take Guru Granth Sahib as tehir Guru, they take some random man.

by definition namdharis are not Sikhs

Well said!!! Akaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllll

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paran singh and those who say that kooke are not sikhs who are you to make such accusations only the guru and akaalpurakh can judge this. and by the way this is what gurbani says who is a sikh.

1. Page305 Line 16 Raag Gaurhee: Guru Ram Das

ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥

gur sathigur kaa jo sikh akhaaeae s bhalakae outh har naam dhhiaavai ||

One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru the True Guru shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name.

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