Slander Of Dasam Bani On Spn

[Inder Singh]

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BHUJANG PRAYAAT STANZA

ਸਦਾ ਏਕ ਜੋਤਯੰ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸਰੂਪੰ ॥ ਮਹਾ ਦੇਵ ਦੇਵੰ ਮਹਾ ਭੂਪ ਭੂਪੰ ॥

सदा एक जोतयं अजूनी सरूपं ॥ महा देव देवं महा भूप भूपं ॥

He, who is ever light-incarnate and birthless entity, Who is the god of chief gods, the king of chief kings.

ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਨਿਤਯੰ ਨਿਰੂਪੰ ਨ੍ਰਿਬਾਣੰ ॥ ਕਲੰ ਕਾਰਣੇਯੰ ਨਮੋ ਖੜਗਪਾਣੰ ॥੩॥

निरंकार नितयं निरूपं न्रिबाणं ॥ कलं कारणेयं नमो खड़गपाणं ॥३॥

Who is Formless, Eternal, Amorphous and Ultimate Bliss. Who is the Cause of all the Powers, I salute the wielder of the Sword.3.

ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਨ੍ਰਿਬਿਕਾਰ ਨਿਤਯੰ ਨਿਰਾਲੰ ॥ ਨ ਬ੍ਰਿਧੰ ਬਿਸੇਖੰ ਨ ਤਰੁਨੰ ਨ ਬਾਲੰ ॥

निरंकार न्रिबिकार नितयं निरालं ॥ न ब्रिधं बिसेखं न तरुनं न बालं ॥

He is Formless, Flawless, eternal and Non-aligned. He is neither distinctively old, nor young nor immature.

ਨ ਰੰਕੰ ਨ ਰਾਯੰ ਨ ਰੂਪੰ ਨ ਰੇਖੰ ॥ ਨ ਰੰਗੰ ਨ ਰਾਗੰ ਅਪਾਰੰ ਅਭੇਖੰ ॥੪॥

न रंकं न रायं न रूपं न रेखं ॥ न रंगं न रागं अपारं अभेखं ॥४॥

He is neither poor. nor rich; He is Formless and Markless. He is Colourless, Non-attached, Limitless and Guiseless.4.

ਨ ਰੂਪੰ ਨ ਰੇਖੰ ਨ ਰੰਗੰ ਨ ਰਾਗੰ ॥ ਨ ਨਾਮੰ ਨ ਠਾਮੰ ਮਹਾ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਾਗੰ ॥

न रूपं न रेखं न रंगं न रागं ॥ न नामं न ठामं महा जोति जागं ॥

He is Formless, Signless, Colourless and Non-attached. He is Nameless, Placeless; and a Radiating Great Effulgence.

ਨ ਦ੍ਵੈਖੰ ਨ ਭੇਖੰ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਨਿਤਯੰ ॥ ਮਹਾ ਜੋਗ ਜੋਗੰ ਸੁ ਪਰਮੰ ਪਵਿਤ੍ਰਯੰ॥੫॥

न द्वैखं न भेखं निरंकार नितयं ॥ महा जोग जोगं सु परमं पवित्रयं॥५॥

He is Blemishless, Guiseless, Formless and Eternal. He is a Superb Practising Yogi and a Supremely Holy Entity.5.

ਅਜੇਯੰ ਅਭੇਯੰ ਅਨਾਮੰ ਅਠਾਮੰ ॥ ਮਹਾ ਜੋਗ ਜੋਗੰ ਮਹਾ ਕਾਮ ਕਾਮੰ ॥

अजेयं अभेयं अनामं अठामं ॥ महा जोग जोगं महा काम कामं ॥

He is unconquerable, Indistinguishable, Nameless and Placeless. He is a Superb Practicing Yogi, He is the Supreme Ravisher.

ਅਲੇਖੰ ਅਭੇਖੰ ਅਨੀਲੰ ਅਨਾਦੰ ॥ ਪਰੇਯੰ ਪਵਿਤ੍ਰੰ ਸਦਾ ਨ੍ਰਿਬਿਖਾਦੰ ॥੬॥

अलेखं अभेखं अनीलं अनादं ॥ परेयं पवित्रं सदा न्रिबिखादं ॥६॥

He is Accountless, Garbless, Stainless and without Beginning. He is in the Yond, Immaculate and ever without Contention.6.

ਸੁਆਦੰ ਅਨਾਦੰ ਅਨੀਲੰ ਅਨੰਤੰ॥ ਅਦ੍ਵੈਖੰ ਅਭੇਖੰ ਮਹੇਸੰ ਮਹੰਤੰ ॥

सुआदं अनादं अनीलं अनंतं॥ अद्वैखं अभेखं महेसं महंतं ॥

He is the Primal, Orignless, Stainless and Endless. He is Blemishless, Guiseless, Master of the earth and the destroyer of Pride.

Bachitra Natak, Dasam granth

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ਖਗ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਹੰਡੰ ਖਲ ਦਲ ਖੰਡੰ ਅਤਿ ਰਣ ਮੰਡੰ ਬਰ ਬੰਡੰ ॥

खग खंड बिहंडं खल दल खंडं अति रण मंडं बर बंडं ॥

The sword chops well, chops the forces of fools and this mighty one bedecks and glorifies the battlefield.

ਭੁਜ ਦੰਡ ਅਖੰਡੰ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੰ ਜੋਤਿ ਅਮੰਡੰ ਭਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੰ ॥

भुज दंड अखंडं तेज प्रचंडं जोति अमंडं भान प्रभं ॥

It is the unbreakable staff of the arm, it has the powerful luster and its light even bedims the radiance of the sum.

ਸੁਖ ਸੰਤਾ ਕਰਣੰ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਦਰਣੰ ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਹਰਣੰ ਅਸਿ ਸਰਣੰ ॥

सुख संता करणं दुरमति दरणं किलबिख हरणं असि सरणं ॥

It brings happiness to the saints, mashing the vicious ones, it is the destroyer of sins and I and under its refuge.

ਜੈ ਜੈ ਜਗ ਕਾਰਣ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਬਾਰਣ ਮਮ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਰਣ ਜੈ ਤੇਗੰ ॥੨॥

जै जै जग कारण स्रिसटि उबारण मम प्रतिपारण जै तेगं ॥२॥

Hail, hail to the cause of the world, saviour of the universe, it is my preserver, I hail its victory. 2.

[Inder Singh]

Recently there was a question by one of the participants on SPN about the source of name akal purakh. So called Gianis had no clue about its source. He is a mentor there. That is what happens when we go away from our scriptures.

[dalsingh101]

Without Dasam granth we have no sikh religion.

I dont think this is correct.

It is, because to become a sikh of Guru Sahib, we have to go through an initiation - Khande Da Pahul - which can't be done without Jaap Sahib, Swaiyye, Chaupai Sahib, which all come from Sri Dasam Granth.

You are therefore implying that before Jaap sahib, swaiye and chaupai sahib were worded down, one could not become a Sikh?

Something VERY wrong here dont you think?

The moment Guru Nanak preached a different world view - Sikhism was born.

[Inder Singh]

Without Dasam granth we have no sikh religion.

I dont think this is correct.

It is, because to become a sikh of Guru Sahib, we have to go through an initiation - Khande Da Pahul - which can't be done without Jaap Sahib, Swaiyye, Chaupai Sahib, which all come from Sri Dasam Granth.

You are therefore implying that before Jaap sahib, swaiye and chaupai sahib were worded down, one could not become a Sikh?

Something VERY wrong here dont you think?

The moment Guru Nanak preached a different world view - Sikhism was born.

Mariya sikka jagat wich

Nanak nirmal panth chalaya

Sikhism was born with guru Nanak dev ji. It was given final shape by our tenth master. So time form ist to tenth master was a period of evolution. There is no difference between the philosophy of our two Gurus.

[dalsingh101]

Mariya sikka jagat wich

Nanak nirmal panth chalaya

Sikhism was born with guru Nanak dev ji. It was given final shape by our tenth master. So time form ist to tenth master was a period of evolution. There is no difference between the philosophy of our two Gurus.

I know, but to say their is no Sikhism without DG is implying those Sikhs who came previous to Khande ki pahul weren't Sikh.

Anyway, let me stay out of this one. I can see where it is heading....lol

[S1ngh]

I know, but to say their is no Sikhism without DG is implying those Sikhs who came previous to Khande ki pahul weren't Sikh.

Anyway, let me stay out of this one. I can see where it is heading....lol

Nobody said that. Please do not make your assumptions. It is said that if we did away with Dasam Granth sikhism will not survive.

[dalsingh101]

It is said that if we did away with Dasam Granth sikhism will not survive.

By whom?

[HSD*^]

i think no matter what, sikhi will continue for a long time. but how it continues will be affected by things like this. with out the dasam granth we will be at a major disadvantage. we will also open the door to more influences from other religions.

[dalsingh101]

with out the dasam granth we will be at a major disadvantage. we will also open the door to more influences from other religions.

What do you mean by this last bit. Other religions influence?

[S1ngh]

It is said that if we did away with Dasam Granth sikhism will not survive.

By whom?

By sikhs or guru panth. What happened to kabir panthis who were in millions.