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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

What qualities should a Granthi / Gyani have before a Gurudwara employs them? What kind of Granthis would you like to see at your Gurdwara?

Thanks!

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Erm, just make sure it's not one of those grumpy gianis! Ones who stare at you as though they are gonna murder ya and shout at loads of people for no apparent reason!:@ Quite a number of people I know have been put off going to Gurdwara because of this.

Sorry If I've Offended Anyone :)

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Given all the recent controversies, I suggest the best granthi to employ is one without a mobile phone.

Seriously though, I would also like to see granthis who play the rabab rather than the harmonium. Slowly but surely we should be going back to our roots and ditching the modern invention of the harmonium in the gurdwaras, because that instrument really doesn't belong there. Therefore, I think all granthis in training in India (or anywhere else) should master the rabab and forget about the harmonium.

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In My Opinion,

The Harmonium Should Be Burnt in The Darkest Pits of Hell!!

Granthis Can Be Either Singh or Kaur!

Granthis Should Obviously Be Fluent in Gurmat Instruments (At Least One).

Granthis Should be Fluent in Gurmat Raags!

Granthis Should be Fluent in Lareevaar Saroop Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji.

Granthis Should Love Dasam Patshah Bani and Sing Bir Ras Shabads!!

Granthis Should Be Able to Expand on Bhai Gurdas Ji, Bhai Nand Lal Singh, Bhai Gurdas Singh Bani.

Granthis Should Teach Santhya, Gurmukhi, etc..

Granthis Should be Content in Their Gristh!! Not look at others at how much money they have, and what cars they have, and look at others with jealousy (they show this by 'kissing up' to rich people etc. its' a sign of their jealousy.)

Granthis Should NEVER give Saropaas etc. to Patits!!!!

Granthis Should NEVER give-in to Corrupt and Patit Members Who Come to Gurudwara.

Granthis Should Be Khalsa! Granthees Should be Head of Committee!!

Granthis Should be Loving as Well as Full of Bir Ras!!

Granthis Should be Fluent in the Language of Population (especially the language of the youth!)

Granthis Should ALWAYS keep the Marayada of The Darbaar At All Cost!

Granthis Should Speak up Against and Correct Mistakes of Marayada Being Broken in Darbaar Sahib, Degh, Langar, etc!

Granthis Should ALWAYS wake up Amrit-Vela (even when not 'working'! The Aura is Obvious!)

Granthis Sole Motivation should be to Propagate Guru Gobind Singh Jis' Maarag (Way of Life).

Granthis (Should be Niskhaam) and Should be either Well Off and/or Content from Their Prior or On Going Dharam Di Kirt, or Be Content in the Earnings from their Current Kirt (There can be more than one Khalsa Granthees taking turns! There does not only have to be One!)

Granthis Should be Citizens of the Country they are Doing Seva!

Granthis Should be in Contact with Women Shelters, Abuse Shelters, Etc. to whom they can speak with and consult to help those in need in Sangat!

Granthis Should be DEDICATED!!!! DAY AND NIGHT DEDICATED!!!!

Granthis SHOULD BE 100% NISHKHAAAAAAM!!!

Just a Few Thoughts that Came to Mind.

We Need To Bring Nishkhaam Khalsa SevaDaars Into Guru Sahibs' Darbaar Who Are In Maha Love with Guru Gobind Singh Ji and in Maha Chardi Kala!!! Are You Possibly One of The Next NishKhaam Granthis'? Chardi Kala!!!

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

What qualities should a Granthi / Gyani have before a Gurudwara employs them? What kind of Granthis would you like to see at your Gurdwara?

Thanks!

One who practices what he preaches.

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Let's pass the buck of our lack of commitment onto them Granthis. Let's be lazy, but expect the Granthi to be committed. Lets pay someone else to do sewa so that we can moan about them and then kick their behinds for not meeting our job spec....Let's sleep in during amritvela but expect the Granthi to be up doing the sewa of Maharaj..Heck, lets be dhilay and expect someone else to be pukka!

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Granthis Can Be Either Singh or Kaur!

Granthis Should Obviously Be Fluent in Gurmat Instruments (At Least One).

Granthis Should be Fluent in Gurmat Raags!

Granthis Should be Fluent in Lareevaar Saroop Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji.

Granthis Should Love Dasam Patshah Bani and Sing Bir Ras Shabads!!

Granthis Should Be Able to Expand on Bhai Gurdas Ji, Bhai Nand Lal Singh, Bhai Gurdas Singh Bani.

Granthis Should Teach Santhya, Gurmukhi, etc..

Granthis Should be Content in Their Gristh!! Not look at others at how much money they have, and what cars they have, and look at others with jealousy (they show this by 'kissing up' to rich people etc. – its' a sign of their jealousy.)

Granthis Should NEVER give Saropaas etc. to Patits!!!!

Granthis Should NEVER give-in to Corrupt and Patit Members Who Come to Gurudwara.

Granthis Should Be Khalsa! Granthees Should be Head of Committee!!

Granthis Should be Loving as Well as Full of Bir Ras!!

Granthis Should be Fluent in the Language of Population (especially the language of the youth!)

Granthis Should ALWAYS keep the Marayada of The Darbaar At All Cost!

Granthis Should Speak up Against and Correct Mistakes of Marayada Being Broken in Darbaar Sahib, Degh, Langar, etc!

Granthis Should ALWAYS wake up Amrit-Vela (even when not 'working'! The Aura is Obvious!)

Granthis Sole Motivation should be to Propagate Guru Gobind Singh Jis' Maarag (Way of Life).

Granthis (Should be Niskhaam) and Should be either Well Off and/or Content from Their Prior or On Going Dharam Di Kirt, or Be Content in the Earnings from their Current Kirt (There can be more than one Khalsa Granthees taking turns! There does not only have to be One!)

Granthis Should be Citizens of the Country they are Doing Seva!

Granthis Should be in Contact with Women Shelters, Abuse Shelters, Etc. to whom they can speak with and consult to help those in need in Sangat!

Granthis Should be DEDICATED!!!! DAY AND NIGHT DEDICATED!!!!

Granthis SHOULD BE 100% NISHKHAAAAAAM!!!

Very good post!

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speak the languague of the contry they are in i.e English if in England.

Or we can make an effort to learn that Punjabi language our ancestors spoke.

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speak the languague of the contry they are in i.e English if in England.

Or we can make an effort to learn that Punjabi language our ancestors spoke.

A Universal Religion reaches out to all types of people, and doesn’t restrict itself to people of one language.

If you want to understand a subject such as Science you have to study and read it in the language you understand best.

The same with understanding and studying a religion.

Some of your ancestors probley practiced Indian rituals, are you going to make an effort to learn those to?

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Granthis Can Be Either Singh or Kaur!

Granthis Should Obviously Be Fluent in Gurmat Instruments (At Least One).

Granthis Should be Fluent in Gurmat Raags!

Granthis Should be Fluent in Lareevaar Saroop Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji.

Granthis Should Love Dasam Patshah Bani and Sing Bir Ras Shabads!!

Granthis Should Be Able to Expand on Bhai Gurdas Ji, Bhai Nand Lal Singh, Bhai Gurdas Singh Bani.

Granthis Should Teach Santhya, Gurmukhi, etc..

Granthis Should be Content in Their Gristh!! Not look at others at how much money they have, and what cars they have, and look at others with jealousy (they show this by 'kissing up' to rich people etc. – its' a sign of their jealousy.)

Granthis Should NEVER give Saropaas etc. to Patits!!!!

Granthis Should NEVER give-in to Corrupt and Patit Members Who Come to Gurudwara.

Granthis Should Be Khalsa! Granthees Should be Head of Committee!!

Granthis Should be Loving as Well as Full of Bir Ras!!

Granthis Should be Fluent in the Language of Population (especially the language of the youth!)

Granthis Should ALWAYS keep the Marayada of The Darbaar At All Cost!

Granthis Should Speak up Against and Correct Mistakes of Marayada Being Broken in Darbaar Sahib, Degh, Langar, etc!

Granthis Should ALWAYS wake up Amrit-Vela (even when not 'working'! The Aura is Obvious!)

Granthis Sole Motivation should be to Propagate Guru Gobind Singh Jis' Maarag (Way of Life).

Granthis (Should be Niskhaam) and Should be either Well Off and/or Content from Their Prior or On Going Dharam Di Kirt, or Be Content in the Earnings from their Current Kirt (There can be more than one Khalsa Granthees taking turns! There does not only have to be One!)

Granthis Should be Citizens of the Country they are Doing Seva!

Granthis Should be in Contact with Women Shelters, Abuse Shelters, Etc. to whom they can speak with and consult to help those in need in Sangat!

Granthis Should be DEDICATED!!!! DAY AND NIGHT DEDICATED!!!!

Granthis SHOULD BE 100% NISHKHAAAAAAM!!!

Very good post!

I agree very good post. But if we make it mandate for every gurudwara to have a person like this, then our gurudwaras won't have granthis anymore.

V. V.V. V. ................ hard it is to find a person like this.

All I see that Granthis are full of greed. Samajhde ne ke sewa kar rahe ne, par for every little job they do, they ask for money. Je sewa hai tan badle cho money dee mang kiyon?? Sharda and demand are two opposites.

In my opinion, there shouldn't be any 1 single granthi. We should have multiple members of the community doing different sewas. The duties should be assigned and rotated, the ones we can rotate. This will encourage the community involvement and bring people closer to real shabad of Gurbani, rather than expecting one granthi to know it all.

No single person can be knowing all and nobody is flawless (and if u find someone, he would be already brahmgiyani, and you won't find him looking for employment).

just my 2 cents.

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If it was not for the Granthi's, no one would be doing any sewa in the Gurdwaras. Let's face it, who is sitting in the Gurughar at 4am when Maharaj's sawari is brought in?? Most of us are hitting the snooze buttons on our alarm clocks...

The Granthi bashing is usually an excuse to blame your sikhi shortcoming on someone else.

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He should only speak truth rest all things will be acceptable only then ... thats what i think ...

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Granthis Can Be Either Singh or Kaur!

Granthis Should Obviously Be Fluent in Gurmat Instruments (At Least One).

Granthis Should be Fluent in Gurmat Raags!

Granthis Should be Fluent in Lareevaar Saroop Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji.

Granthis Should Love Dasam Patshah Bani and Sing Bir Ras Shabads!!

Granthis Should Be Able to Expand on Bhai Gurdas Ji, Bhai Nand Lal Singh, Bhai Gurdas Singh Bani.

Granthis Should Teach Santhya, Gurmukhi, etc..

Granthis Should be Content in Their Gristh!! Not look at others at how much money they have, and what cars they have, and look at others with jealousy (they show this by 'kissing up' to rich people etc. – its' a sign of their jealousy.)

Granthis Should NEVER give Saropaas etc. to Patits!!!!

Granthis Should NEVER give-in to Corrupt and Patit Members Who Come to Gurudwara.

Granthis Should be Content in Their Gristh!! Not look at others at how much money they have, and what cars they have, and look at others with jealousy (they show this by 'kissing up' to rich people etc. – its' a sign of their jealousy.)

Granthis Should be Loving as Well as Full of Bir Ras!!

Granthis Should be Fluent in the Language of Population (especially the language of the youth!)

Granthis Should ALWAYS keep the Marayada of The Darbaar At All Cost!

Granthis Should Speak up Against and Correct Mistakes of Marayada Being Broken in Darbaar Sahib, Degh, Langar, etc!

Granthis Should ALWAYS wake up Amrit-Vela (even when not 'working'! The Aura is Obvious!)

Granthis Sole Motivation should be to Propagate Guru Gobind Singh Jis' Maarag (Way of Life).

Granthis (Should be Niskhaam) and Should be either Well Off and/or Content from Their Prior or On Going Dharam Di Kirt, or Be Content in the Earnings from their Current Kirt (There can be more than one Khalsa Granthees taking turns! There does not only have to be One!)

Granthis Should be Citizens of the Country they are Doing Seva!

Granthis Should be in Contact with Women Shelters, Abuse Shelters, Etc. to whom they can speak with and consult to help those in need in Sangat!

Granthis Should be DEDICATED!!!! DAY AND NIGHT DEDICATED!!!!

Granthis SHOULD BE 100% NISHKHAAAAAAM!!!

I think this would empty all our gurdwaras in one fell swoop.

I agree with most of what you say.

Granthis Should be Content in Their Gristh!! Not look at others at how much money they have, and what cars they have, and look at others with jealousy (they show this by 'kissing up' to rich people etc. – its' a sign of their jealousy.)

So how you going to screen for this? They are humans like the rest of us, if we all do this then how can we expect them not to do this.

Granthis Should Be Khalsa! Granthees Should be Head of Committee!!

I don’t think this is ever going to happen(head of committee) , it is the committee that (wrongly) appoint the granthi, they are hardly going to move over and relinquish their kursee to him/her.

Granthis Should Speak up Against and Correct Mistakes of Marayada

Most granthies come over from India and are not ‘pukkay’ so they have to be subservient to the committee members for years until they get permanent residency, so they can never speak out, which in turn feeds the ego of the pardhaans. They bide their time and take all manner of rubbish from those in charge. It is easy for persons in good jobs to mock them and mock their apparent greed, but these people come over from India , yes they have prem and sharda but also they need to feed themselves and their families back home, there is no shame in this, but get treated like rubbish.

Granthis (Should be Niskhaam) and Should be either Well Off and/or Content from Their Prior or On Going Dharam Di Kirt, or Be Content in the Earnings from their Current Kirt

This IS their kirt, even though the committee steal all their money donated to them by the sangat. How can you expect them to do granthi sewa nishkaam? How many granthies have any other profession then that of kirtan and paath? How many well off granthies have you ever seen ?

We knock the granthies but do not know their hardship, separated from their families, far from home, and they get treated so badly. Do we create granthies in this country ? who would do this sewa when you see how granthies get treated ?

Until we start to treat Granthies with respect and give them a good wage then you will not get the right standard of people.

Simplsh.

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