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A lot of replies to Dhadrianwala and Moranwali are being posted on youtube, here are a few:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQamAVnklYM - awesome reply by young singh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxZWZSlM14 - another song in favour of babbu mann and dhadriwanala's reaction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyzGsZ03r4E - youth in favour of babbu mann

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There was a time when folk singers were just folk singers and their fans only expected folk songs from them. From folk singers to pop idols to wannabe mahapurshs. I find it hilarious that this topic has dragged so so on,, Judging from Babu Maan's fans reactions, you'd think some next mahapursh has become pargat.

Who needs christian missionaries or dehadhari gurus when you got these mahan 'panth de ratan' monay portraying their non-rehat, kes katal, sharabi/kebabi, dancing with bibya in mini-skirts, "slip in a quick panthic geet", convenient version of Sikhi! Jai Baba Babu Maan Di! Jai Baba Jazzie B Di!

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inMdw BlI iksY kI nwhI mnmuK mugD krMin ]

ni(n)dhaa bhalee kisai kee naahee manamukh mugadhh kara(n)n ||

It is not good to slander anyone, but the foolish, self-willed manmukhs still do it.

muh kwly iqn inMdkw nrky Goir pvMin ]6]

muh kaalae thin ni(n)dhakaa narakae ghor pava(n)n ||6||

The faces of the slanderers turn black, and they fall into the most horrible hell. ||6||

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inMdw BlI iksY kI nwhI mnmuK mugD krMin ]

ni(n)dhaa bhalee kisai kee naahee manamukh mugadhh kara(n)n ||

It is not good to slander anyone, but the foolish, self-willed manmukhs still do it.

muh kwly iqn inMdkw nrky Goir pvMin ]6]

muh kaalae thin ni(n)dhakaa narakae ghor pava(n)n ||6||

The faces of the slanderers turn black, and they fall into the most horrible hell. ||6||

Waaheguru!!!! You lot might want to look at this ^^

This also comes to mind:

sa(n)th kaa ni(n)dhak khin ttikan n paaee ||

The slanderer of the Saint has not even a moment's rest

Seems like you lot who don't seem to have peace of mind and continue to slander others. Makes sense doesn't it, the amount of topics regarding or relating to the same matter shows how restless some of you are.

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Babbu Maan is a disgrace, in PURAATAN times the situation would have been different and no fool like him would be able to sing the rubbish he does!

Give it a break is that all people can say 'Puratan this Puratan that' purataan chaki firdeyah - in the end no one can touch Babbu Maan weird how only the dera lot here - Sant/Baba lot are offended where as the rest of the Qoum isn't and whole heartldy agree with it the Sant/Baba/Nihang this that are a minority compared to the common Sikh who agrees and openly supports Babbu

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Do people know that the main version of Babbu's Baba Nanak song says "Baba has got black Audi", but in a newer edited version he sings "Baba has got a keemtee car" because he took it too far directing it at Dhadrian Wale Sant and got scared lol!!!!! And you know what????? - Dhadrian Wale had a black Audi given by someone but sold it to give money to Delhi massacre victims just a few weeks ago this November for the 25 years! This has come from reliable and very trustworthy sources because Dhadrian Wale even mentions it in a diwan when he recommends people to support the victims and article/photo in Awaz and Ajeet newspaper in India when he gave support! There is a hidden agenda behind this song from the looks of it! So much for the nindaks' arguments about helping 1984 victims and argument that Babbu was talking about more than just Dhadrian Wale! Babbu sang the song in direct reference to Dhadrian Wale! And now his chela "Trim-Singh NS Chouhan" a known drug dealer has done the same! What fools Babbu and his drug dealer chela are!!!

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Do people know that the main version of Babbu's Baba Nanak song says "Baba has got black Audi", but in a newer edited version he sings "Baba has got a keemtee car" because he took it too far directing it at Dhadrian Wale Sant and got scared lol!!!!! And you know what????? - Dhadrian Wale had a black Audi given by someone but sold it to give money to Delhi massacre victims just a few weeks ago this November for the 25 years! This has come from reliable and very trustworthy sources because Dhadrian Wale even mentions it in a diwan when he recommends people to support the victims and article/photo in Awaz and Ajeet newspaper in India when he gave support! There is a hidden agenda behind this song from the looks of it! So much for the nindaks' arguments about helping 1984 victims and argument that Babbu was talking about more than just Dhadrian Wale! Babbu sang the song in direct reference to Dhadrian Wale! And now his chela "Trim-Singh NS Chouhan" a known drug dealer has done the same! What fools Babbu and his drug dealer chela are!!!

And people said that Babbu Maan didn't mention Dhadrianwale in the song, it's pretty obvious who Babbu Maan is referring to...

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Do people know that the main version of Babbu's Baba Nanak song says "Baba has got black Audi", but in a newer edited version he sings "Baba has got a keemtee car" because he took it too far directing it at Dhadrian Wale Sant and got scared lol!!!!! And you know what????? - Dhadrian Wale had a black Audi given by someone but sold it to give money to Delhi massacre victims just a few weeks ago this November for the 25 years! This has come from reliable and very trustworthy sources because Dhadrian Wale even mentions it in a diwan when he recommends people to support the victims and article/photo in Awaz and Ajeet newspaper in India when he gave support! There is a hidden agenda behind this song from the looks of it! So much for the nindaks' arguments about helping 1984 victims and argument that Babbu was talking about more than just Dhadrian Wale! Babbu sang the song in direct reference to Dhadrian Wale! And now his chela "Trim-Singh NS Chouhan" a known drug dealer has done the same! What fools Babbu and his drug dealer chela are!!!

And people said that Babbu Maan didn't mention Dhadrianwale in the song, it's pretty obvious who Babbu Maan is referring to...

Wow, you really are a lost soul, get a life and shun your pakhandi babas !!!tongue.gif

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1. The first video was removed by the user (why?).

2. The second video by NS Chahaun says a) Babbu talked, and the Baba was inflamed, b) Babas have brought a "kehar" to Sikhi, c) the Baba is using the red light (lal batti) to steal from Sikhs, d) the Baba is using chimtas to loot gehanas (jewelry).

3. The third video is a presentation by two boys. This is true, listen. Now, sants are doing nindia on stages. They could help the poor instead; they could be travelling in Marutis, but Baba Ji doesn't accept this. No one has a right to talk about monas. Why do you fill people's minds with nindia. Why are you after his life (Babbu Mann's). Just preach religion, thinking of God. There are also those who think of God as ever present, and put those who have gone off the path back on the path.

Second boy:

They equate themselves with Baba Nanak, why now do they forget Baba Nanak? (Guru Nanak) Used to go by walking, but they (babas) keep cars, and 5-6 men with them. They just keep talking whatever comes into their minds. They put illiterate men behind themselves as followers and increase their stature, they are useless for poor people. Babbu Mann, by making a true and holy point, became a diamond of the Panth. He only showed the truth to the people; people slandered him for nothing.

4. First news video, ChardiKla TimeTV news presentation. They say that history and literature is a mirror. When we talk about Punjabi songs and culture, whether it be Waris Shah, or Heer Ranjh, the culture of the time, and its bad aspects are apparent. [i'll finish this later]

10.

This a video that Youtube automatically showed a link to from the 3rd video above. I'll just summarise it so people can know what SD detractors are thinking.

"Mom, I'll become a sant, a very strong and endlessly powerful man. Mom, I'll become a sant. I'll wear a long, white chola and wear a dumalla on my head with a khanda, I'll loot the people. Watch me, I'll live in a house like Sachkhand. While living, I'll loot money. I'll be so awesome, Mom, just you watch. I did a bachelor's degree and make you spend so much money, I fell at the feet of so many, but didn't get a livelihood from anywhere. I ran around like a dog. I'll become a Mahant of Brampton, I'll become a sant. I'll wear white clothes and always be fashionable. I'll tell a lot of sakhis and preach manmat, I'll make noise with chimtas and dholkis. I'll be known as a full sant, I'll be such a person of good qualities. I'll keep good relations with the media, and people will come to meet me after swiping their credit cards. I'll send my male followers to work, then I'll go and meet my female followers. I'll make my abode in Nurmehal (reference to Ashutosh), Mom, I'll light up lights there. There is such pleasure in this work, there is complete praise of sants, without any degree or education, not to mention lots of houses and cars, and the love of Bibis. I'll be the husband of many women. I'll check my female devotees by hugging them [reference to that fellow in Malaysia?]. I'll partake of pleasure in hotels in Chicago [reference to disgraced Sant Daljit Singh of Chicago]. I'll keep up my scheme for 20 years, put people into confusion, like Thakur Singh, no one will speak before me, even the Jathedars. Every year there will be my death anniversary, the sangat will increase its devotion. I'll increase love with leaders, and throw victuals to thugs. I'll be known as a brahamgiani and sant. Mom, and you'll have an army to do work for you, and you'll be known as Jagat Mata, and can have people fall at your feet if you like." Etc.

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LIVE NOW ON CHARDIKLA TIME TV (INDIA 9PM):

http://timetv.in/live.htm

-Dhadi Bhai Tarsem Singh Moranwali-

Talking about religious blasphemy in "Ik Baba Nanak Si" by Babbu Mann and in support of Panthic Parchaaraks like Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Jee Dhadrianwale. Someone may want to record.

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The news videos posted by Dashmesh force are somewhat more balanced. Here's what they say:

The song says: "There was one Baba Nanak who traversed the world on foot. Then there are the babas of today who put a red light on their cars."

SD criticized Babbu Mann. Dhadi Moranwali said that there's a section of society which thinks that preachers should walk to their programs.

Guests on the program were Jagdev Singh Jassowal (Prof. Mohan Singh Foundation) and Prof. Sukhdial Singh, Punjabi University.

Sukhdial Singh: Songs represent the feelings of the people. Sometimes, the singer is also in the group being sung about. For example, Babbu Mann is also a member of a group which is just as bad in the eyes of the public (i.e., singers). But the point that he raised resonates with the people. A big proof of this is that a lot of students have filled his song on their mobile phones, even though Babbu Mann isn't such a big Sikh.

Host: Should the singer have been Amritdhari? Sukhdial Singh: Not necessarily. Also, what's the point of being a Sikh if you don't raise your voice against the bad elements of society? Although not all babas are bad, some are very good, some are bad, though. One of the bad things kar seva babas have done is to destroy historical buildings and put marble in its place.

Hosts: There's a line in the song that says "Baba requested a bagful of notes. I heard the Baba bought a new car." Sukhdial Singh: There are good babas, and also bad babas. But the point raised by Babbu Mann is correct. I'm not in favour of Babbue Mann, I'm against some of his songs.

Some people say there were no cars then, otherwise Guru Nanak might have used them. But, there's a luxury vehicle in every era. Guru Nanak could have went on horse or a buggy.

Host: Some people believe Babbu Mann didn't attack anyone in particular, rather a pirated Youtube video which put pictures of particular sants with Babbu's song. Sukhdial Singh: Not every baba is good, not all are bad. Take Chapparchiri, site of Banda Bahadur's first battle. It's not on a main road, so babas don't build a gurdwara there.

Here's the receiving information for TimeTV:

Satellite          INSAT4A @83o EAST

Frequency      3725 MHZ

Symbol Rate   26.666 M/S SYMBOL

Position          HORIZONTAL

Band               C

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