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Agreed in general it's not the best term to use, but in context it does get used on Gurdwara stages quite often. The instance of when Massa Ranghar put "kanjariya" to dance in Harmandir Sahib is a common example where Dhadi's use the term on stages. Tarsem Singh Moranwali is essentially a Dhadi Vaar parcharak which usually involves communicating in a dramatic way, be it over dramatic in some instances.

Terms like Kanjar, Haramkhor, Haramee, Kutee are used and have been used in parchaar (particular Dhaadi Vaars) to get points accross.

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I have been following this fight for a long time now (on this site, youtube, other Punjabi sites, etc).

I think none of them is right. Babbu Mann could have been more specific (because I felt he wanted to say about Gurmeet Ram Rahim, but then he added the ' dholkian chimtey' bit, and I was confused).

But Bhai Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwala isn't right either. Theek, he is doing nice parchaar, but doesn't make his opinion THE truth. Monna's aren't part of the 'wider' Sikh Panth? If not, then why are Udasis, etc considered Sikh by the oldest Jathebandis in Sikhi? Why can't a Monna speak up against issues? I respect a monna (not Babbu, just a monna who has sharda for Sikhi) more than these so-called Sikh like Sukhbir Badal (ohhh he is amritdhari...), and pakhandi saadhs, nangs etc.

Has anyone tried to understand what Babbu Mann tried to say? He meant that today we are giving more importance to PAKHAND rather than doing the REAL PARCHAR. 'Baba Nanak Ne Turke Duniya Gaahti' is not to be taken literally. Guru Nanak Sahib also used boats etc during their udasis, so it isn't bad to use something for transport. BUT how is having several cars justified to do PARCHAR? 1 or 2 cars are enough... And WHY in gods name have they to be one of the latest models?

But lets implement in our lives what Guru Nanak Sahib Maharaj Ji said;

~~ Ham Nahi Changae, Bura Nahi Koe ~~ ( I am not good, no one is bad )

WJKK WJKF Ji

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ok... didnt expect some of the narrow minded " know it all views" presented here... what have we become where we just jump on the bandwagon and when loki (people) say dhadrianwale etc are good then we say oh yea yayyyyy theyre so goood and when loki say the same person is bad then we say nayyy!! Get some guts people and stand up and decide for yourself what is right, sikhs dont jump on bandwagons they are their own individuals

and no this isnt directed to everyone , but definitely a number of ppl who i have seen being double faced, i can see these same people in 84 were probably saying nayy to sant bhinderanwale when government propaganda was doing everything in their power to degrade their name..again the sign of a bandwaggoner, dependent, "tell me what i should think" individual..

and it is very common to say kanjari, because thats what the person is, at gurdwara when they talk about masa rangr they say kanjari too, what do you think when they went to take down masa rangr they said " oh no the woman who should not be named , the you know what, is dancing there, this must not happen" what is this harry potter or something ( he who must not be named) LOL

a kanjari is a kanjari, thats a word, just liek a kutha is a kutha , its a word, some ppl use it to swear but it's also a word, now do you expect kathavachiks to say" i have a he who must not be named, who is furry and four legged, do you guys knwo what im talking about?"

like COME ON ppl, come up with some real claims, like these are just sorry excuses.

we as sikhs sit here and do nindya of people who are actually doing something for the panth, who are doing the STRONGEST parchaar against ram rahim and suckers like him and putting their own lives at stake while we sit here sipping on chai latte and eating timbits ( canadians atleast)

admin please close the topic, i do not want to be responsible for paying off the heavy burden of nindya created against those who do parchaar about sikhi and the right parchaar at that.. that is a very risky chance and i do not want to suffer blows to my head in my after life because of that

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and it is very common to say kanjari, because thats what the person is, at gurdwara when they talk about masa rangr they say kanjari too, what do you think when they went to take down masa rangr they said " oh no the woman who should not be named , the you know what, is dancing there, this must not happen" what is this harry potter or something ( he who must not be named) LOL

a kanjari is a kanjari, thats a word, just liek a kutha is a kutha , its a word, some ppl use it to swear but it's also a word, now do you expect kathavachiks to say" i have a he who must not be named, who is furry and four legged, do you guys knwo what im talking about?"

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Nicely said

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Jazzy B is such a mahapurukh hence the reason one should do dharmik songs with him..err..double standards..they all seem like police agents to me trying to get power and money

babbu man clearly speaking out against the indian government and the likes of dhindrianwale having a red light on his car that we all know is used for government cars...doesn't make sense

something fishy is deffo going on here.

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Just to clear something up red lights on cars aren't just for politicians they're for anyone important who needs to get somewhere fast. If you think a mahan parcharak of the panth isn't important then you're deluded. There is no one more important or who should be respected more. When you're doing 3 divaans a day because you want to do as much good as possible you need to get around quickly.

Treating sants like kings/vips is nothing new pick up book read Baba Nand Singhs Jeevan, read Baba Attar Singhs jeevan he once rode on an elephant in a procession of rajeh when king george the 5th visited. More recently did people not use to give baba ishar Singh cars?

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red lights on cars aren't just for politicians they're for anyone important who needs to get somewhere fast.

Not that i agree or disagree with song or this issue but i wanna point out that by the law books of India, Only Police personnel (above SP rank) are allowed to have red beacon on their car. It is gross violation to install red beacon on private/non-government vehicles and that too in use by non-governmental person (unless you have big voting power base or in friends with CM or other Ministers). I do know that SGPC president got the pilot car with Punjab Police Security (that is very wrong too).

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There are loads of business men and other people who do it though is what I mean. I don't mean its allowed by law beacause we all the law doesn't reallly matter in India. People seem under the impression that only the president and Baba Ranjit Singh have red light on their cars. The point i'm trying to make is its the norm for important people.

Also just to let everyone know Baba Ranjit Singh does not have any government provided security at all. Some of the Singhs like baba jees driver have gun licences thats it.

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GOOD point khalsa ji,

I think we tend to take a critical point and run with it then actual understand what the laal bathi is for

So babbu mans just jealous he doesnt have that much respect

he just wishes he could get to the stage faster VIP Style laal bathi guddi so he can sing "CAN I HAVE a ONENIGHT Stand with you"

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Jealousy is without a doubt the reason why Babbu Mann made some of the comments in the song. Jealousy is also the reason why many other moorakhs are jumping on the bandwagon. People don't like to see others in chardikala its a sad but true fact.

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Is it valid only in India, I am always in hurry. I should permanantly have red lights on my car.

But even if its true only in India, I always do things at the last min. hence, always in hurry. Could you please use some political help to get me as well.

I don't know politicians, or whoever else on this forum have some political ties. Please help me as I don't get time as I am busy doing simran or reading my banis to plan ahead.

LOL!

vaise we all speak truth, don't we?? Its about time TRUTh also gets reality Check.

Whats TRUTH anyways. Whole world have its own truth. We think other person's truth is baseless lie, but our truth is truth.

Kise ne sach hee kiha hai, jine moonh uniya gallann

ram simar ram simar eho terai kaaj hai--------commenting on myself.

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Yes there are thousands who are breaking the law and sadly that includes bhai ranjit singh dhadreyaan walay. Singers like Babu Maan only knows how to sing and make money and that is it. He probably got power enough to put red beacon on his car too. Point is that we should not shield or agree with anyone who dis-obeys the common law of the society. Sikhi supports nimana paan and to live the life like the common man. Most of the Indian law books are written by British. Uk tends to uphold the law while India doesn't and you can see the difference of these both countries. If you don't speak truth in your home then your kids will never speak the truth in their life. If your role model is doing something which is not okay to do then you will tend to do the same stuff. Doing wrong doesn't make the stuff right. Bit out of topic but i thought we need to think wise without emotion.

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