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ਸਾਕਤ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਕੀਜਈ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਜੇ ਕਾ ਪਾਰਿ ਵਸਾਇ ॥As far as it is in your power, do not associate with the faithless cynics, O Beloved. Meeting with them, God is forgotten; and you rise and depart with a blackened face or disgrace (sggs 641).

ਸਾਕਤ ਸਿਉ ਮੁਖਿ ਜੋਰਿਐ ਅਧ ਵੀਚਹੁ ਟੂਟੈ ॥Friendship with the Saakat is false (sggs 811).

<LI>ਕਬੀਰ ਸਾਕਤ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਕੀਜੀਐ ਦੂਰਹਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਭਾਗਿ ॥ ਬਾਸਨੁ ਕਾਰੋ ਪਰਸੀਐ ਤਉ ਕਛੁ ਲਾਗੈ ਦਾਗੁ ॥੧੩੧॥: Kabeer saakat sang na keejeeai doorahi jaaeeai bhaag. Baasan kaaro parseeai taou kish laagai daag ||131||: Kabeer, do not associate with the faithless cynics; run far away from them. If you touch a vessel stained with soot, some of the soot will stick to you ||131|| (sggs 1371).

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ਸਾਕਤ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਕੀਜਈ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਜੇ ਕਾ ਪਾਰਿ ਵਸਾਇ ॥As far as it is in your power, do not associate with the faithless cynics, O Beloved. Meeting with them, God is forgotten; and you rise and depart with a blackened face or disgrace (sggs 641).

ਸਾਕਤ ਸਿਉ ਮੁਖਿ ਜੋਰਿਐ ਅਧ ਵੀਚਹੁ ਟੂਟੈ ॥Friendship with the Saakat is false (sggs 811).

<LI>ਕਬੀਰ ਸਾਕਤ ਸੰਗੁ ਨ ਕੀਜੀਐ ਦੂਰਹਿ ਜਾਈਐ ਭਾਗਿ ॥ ਬਾਸਨੁ ਕਾਰੋ ਪਰਸੀਐ ਤਉ ਕਛੁ ਲਾਗੈ ਦਾਗੁ ॥੧੩੧॥: Kabeer saakat sang na keejeeai doorahi jaaeeai bhaag. Baasan kaaro parseeai taou kish laagai daag ||131||: Kabeer, do not associate with the faithless cynics; run far away from them. If you touch a vessel stained with soot, some of the soot will stick to you ||131|| (sggs 1371).

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Also many atheists are atheists because they don't like a particular religion, they haven't explored other belief systems and concepts of waheguru/god/allah. From my experience a lot of people are surprisingly atheist also so they receive more challenges with a deep hope that they are proved wrong. wink.gif

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What do you think about atheists ?

If they ask you to prove god's existence , then what would you do ? smile.gif

The "big bang" theory. Something cant come out of nothing but thats exactly what science expects you to think. Even scientists cant explain was was there before big bang they say charged supergases or something along that line but if thats the case what was before that? and so forth... so there has to be a conscious supreme being whose created the vast universe

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What do you think about atheists ?

If they ask you to prove god's existence , then what would you do ? smile.gif

The "big bang" theory. Something cant come out of nothing but thats exactly what science expects you to think. Even scientists cant explain was was there before big bang they say charged supergases or something along that line but if thats the case what was before that? and so forth... so there has to be a conscious supreme being whose created the vast universe

The Guru Granth Sahib Ji writes about the big bang. If you look it's all there. Science is merely people trying to understand waheguru's creation. In the end they will all realize this. blush.gif

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Have you seen the fish with 'Darwin' in it?

Darwinism is the number one reason that the west turned atheist.

The Church was once used to be held as the position of knowledge.

The facts of the Church did not meet with the facts of science,

so the Lab Coat became the source of knowledge for us up until today.

"The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet."

-- William Gibson

The future is in the fact that Darwinism does not explain biology.

The new BIology --> "Epigenetics" is the answer.

We have to incorporate the Spiritual Sciences, the modern interpretation

of quantum physics into our interpretation of the the way of the world.

Without them, all we have is the material.

We extrinsically deny the existence of Gravity because we can not see it. Yet it does.

WE feel its effect. The effect of God in our lives, is our Breath of Life!

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Have you seen the fish with 'Darwin' in it?

Darwinism is the number one reason that the west turned atheist.

The Church was once used to be held as the position of knowledge.

The facts of the Church did not meet with the facts of science,

so the Lab Coat became the source of knowledge for us up until today.

"The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet."

-- William Gibson

The future is in the fact that Darwinism does not explain biology.

The new BIology --> "Epigenetics" is the answer.

We have to incorporate the Spiritual Sciences, the modern interpretation

of quantum physics into our interpretation of the the way of the world.

Without them, all we have is the material.

We extrinsically deny the existence of Gravity because we can not see it. Yet it does.

WE feel its effect. The effect of God in our lives, is our Breath of Life!

Your views are kind of one sided. You can't discredit evolution. The reason people turned atheist isn't because of that, it's because the main Church tried to twist reality to their own favor. If people started to believe in evolution the Church's power would lessen. If you look at Sikhi it doesn't discredit science.

Like I said science is merely individuals trying to seek more knowledge, what most don't know is waheguru is where they will all end up needing. Some scientists do realize this, but most don't...

Look at life in a different view and you'll learn new things everyday.

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