Becoming Shastardhari

[Khalasthan86]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

I want to become shastardhari, since i'm studying in school, what are the restrictions, that we have nationally in UK, regarding the Kirpan / and other shaster.

If I wear a kirpan to school, and the teacher tells me to take it off, what should I do (Not that it has happened to me)

Can some attach a legal resolution regarding the kirpan. like, if a teacher says take the kirpan off, I can show them the document, stating you are allowed to wear a kirpan etc.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

[mohinder pal]

If you want to be Shasterdahir, Then be a complete Shahsterdari. As per Guru Gobind SIngh ji Sache Patshah jio, He should be a Tyar Bar Tyar Sikh to Sacrifice His Life. Since Nowdays Even Shasterdharis(Living Abroad) Wear and Remove Shasters whereever they go(Beadbi of Guruji's Bachan), Its better to hold MALA in your hand and Do Naam Jaap.

When the time is right, then you become shasterdhari. Also there is Certain Rehat Maryada to be a Shasterdhari

I am telling you this bcz even i am not a shasterdhari.

[SunSingh]

it's quite simple. wear a kirpan underneath your clothes, tell no one. no problems right?

also, don't wear a huge one, as it sticks out, people feel afraid, and then they create a ruckus. I find a normal size one is good, and the gatra length keep short enough so that it won't stick out from under your clothes.

if you are required to do gym class, on days you ahve gym you can wear a smaller kirpan on a shorter than normal gatra. for the gym i use a very short gatra, this means that the kirpan doesn't bounce around when running.

[Singh559]

SunSingh ji, i had a talk about this with one of my friends and he does wear a kirpan to school, but if he said if he got caught he could get expelled because of a zero tolerance policy.

[caveman]

you want to be a shastardhari.....first of all learn shastar vidiya, there isnt any point carrying a kirpan(most likely you have a taksali one - dont bother with it as its always blunt! have something which can be used) or any other shastar without knowing how to use them. If someone has martial vidiya they could disarm you and use it on you. Shastardhari doesnt just mean keeping weapons you have to do the right sewa for them do puja of the weapons and do shastar vidiya puja!

Later on in Naveen Panth Prakash, Giani Gian Singh mentions some of the Rehat that was given to the Khalsa Singhs.(taken from http://sikh-reality.blogspot.com/)

ਪਾਹੁਲ ਖੰਡੇ ਕੇਰ ਛਜੱਈਏ । ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਬਿਦ੍ਯਾ ਸਬੈ ਸਿਖੱਈਏ ।

Take Khandey Di Pahul and all should learn Shastar Bidiya [the science of arms].

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਕੀ ਫਤੇ ਗਜੱਈਏ । ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਤਨ ਸਜਵੱਈਏ ॥੪੦॥

Chant Vahiguru Ki Fateh [The victory is the Lords], and adorn yourself with weapons and clothes.

ਸਿਖ੍ਯਾ ਜੰਗ ਕਰਨ ਕੀ ਦੱਈਏ । ਸਿੰਘ ਨਾਮ ਇਨਿ ਕੇ ਰਖਵੱਈਏ ।

Give the teachings of how to wage war, in this way you shall retain the name Singh.

ਗਾਥ ਬੀਰ ਰਸ ਸੀ ਸੁਨਵੱਈਏ ।

Listen to the stories which inspire 'Bir Ras' [warrior spirit].

[Naveen Panth Prakash, pg. 1571, Vol. 3]

Again Giani Gian Singh mentions the Rehat that was told to the Singhs.

ਖੇਲੈਂ ਨਿੱਤ ਸ਼ਿਕਾਰ ਬਨਨ ਮੈਂ, ਮਾਰਿ ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਬਹੁ ਖਾਵੈਂ ।

Always partake in hunting, [practice] killing deer and then eat your hunt.

ਘੋੜਨ ਪਰ ਅਸਵਾਰ ਹੋਇ ਕਰਿ, ਸਜ ਕੈ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਸਾਰੇ ।

Ride horses and wear all sorts of weapons.

ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਬ੍ਯਿਾ ਸੀਖ ਸਿਖਾਵੈਂ, ਜਪੈ ਅਕਾਲ ਅਕਾਲੇ ।

Learn Shastar Bidya [the science of Arms], and chant Akaal Akaal

[Naveen Panth Prakash, pg. 1589, Vol. 3]

[BhaiSukhSingh]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

I want to become shastardhari, since i'm studying in school, what are the restrictions, that we have nationally in UK, regarding the Kirpan / and other shaster.

If I wear a kirpan to school, and the teacher tells me to take it off, what should I do (Not that it has happened to me)

Can some attach a legal resolution regarding the kirpan. like, if a teacher says take the kirpan off, I can show them the document, stating you are allowed to wear a kirpan etc.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ

Singh you have to start somewhere i say start by keeping your rehait first to the upmost and than become ShasterDhari. 1st Sant and than Spiee.

But if you have issues and people police or figures saying you cant wear a Kirpan i have attached a PDF doc below that you can keep with you !!!

http://www.davidappleton.co.uk/bbforum/cja1988_s139_card.pdf

[sukhjeevansingh]

paaji im guessing you havent taken amrit yet.. i spoke to my headmaster a month before taking amrit and he said it was fine just speak to school..like if you dont and your always hiding it its a bit hard