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On 3/14/2020 at 4:56 PM, JoshuaS said:

If you haven’t went through the Amrit ceremony, but you want to please God all you can. Should you sleep with them? I do want to take Amrit, but no Gurudwara near me, and I’m a convert. Thanks 

Sleep with the 5 ks? Yea like the comments above state, they never leave your body. Also where do you live?

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The kakkars are our angs, a Sikh is never without them. Some quotes below but I did read one some time ago, it was something along the lines of:

Bina shashter kesang na devo deedaray... anyone know where it may be from, possibly an old rehitnama.

 

Kachh Kirpan Kabhu n teeaagey.
Sanmukh larey n ran te bhaagey.
Shastr Heen n kabhu hoee.
Rehat vant Khalsa he soee.
(rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh ji)

ਸ਼ਸਤਰ ਹੀਨ ਕਬਹੂ ਨਹਿ ਹੋਈ, ਰਿਹਤਵੰਤ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੋਈ ॥Those who never depart his/her arms, they are the Khalsa with excellent rehats

rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh ji

 

 

ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਣ ਪਾਣ ਧਾਰੀਯੰ ॥ ਕਰੋਰ ਪਾਪ ਟਾਰੀਯੰ ॥

"The mark of a Khalsa is one who holds a Kirpan in hand,

by the wearing of which millions of sins are abolished."

Sri Dasam Granth 

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On 9/1/2010 at 5:45 PM, Hanu said:

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa

Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Please pretend you don't know me as I am asking such as stupid quesiton, but no one ever explained this to me in the onslaught of information that was presented, and I am too embarrassed to be asking this in person. But, you wear your kara to bed, you wear your Kachcheras to bed, you wear a patka to bed to compensate for a heavy turban, they say you're supposed to have your kakars on your person at 'all times". Are you supposed to wear your kirpan draped over your shoulder as you slip into bed, or take it off and leave it on the dresser next to your bed where it is at least symbolically within close reach if it were needed to be called upon to defend someone? It makes sense either way to me, considering the ethics and the history of what the Khalsa endured historically, but as I have no idea I am coming here for the advice.

What is the truth, please?

Thank you so much!

 

Step 1: The kirpan comes off at night.

Step 2: The kirpan comes off at shower.

Step 3: The kirpan comes when you stay indoors.

Step 4 :  Now sometimes you dont wear the kirpan when u go out

Step 5: Kacherra comes off while having sex

Step 6 : Kirpan has come off all the way. Boxers replace kacherra

Step 7: Easy simran replaces nitnem

Step 8 : Nitnem and simran all lost.

Step 9: All K’s have come off. Nitnem lost. 
 

Step 10: Alcohol, meat and bujjer kurehit

After few years u realize how ur mind tricked u.

I hope this helps.

 

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On 1/16/2021 at 3:25 AM, singhsince1981 said:

 

Step 1: The kirpan comes off at night.

Step 2: The kirpan comes off at shower.

Step 3: The kirpan comes when you stay indoors.

Step 4 :  Now sometimes you dont wear the kirpan when u go out

Step 5: Kacherra comes off while having sex

Step 6 : Kirpan has come off all the way. Boxers replace kacherra

Step 7: Easy simran replaces nitnem

Step 8 : Nitnem and simran all lost.

Step 9: All K’s have come off. Nitnem lost. 
 

Step 10: Alcohol, meat and bujjer kurehit

After few years u realize how ur mind tricked u.

I hope this helps.

 

Fantastic response - its a slipppppery slope. 

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29 minutes ago, ssinghuk said:

Fantastic response - its a slipppppery slope. 

Sadly & unfortunately I have been down this slope & have also seen others go down this slope. 
Mind is very very tricky. In Islam mind is called Shaitaan 👹 and in Christainity it is the Satan with red horns 👿

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Well Singhs used to wear long kirpaan, so I really doubt they had it in gatra while sleeping.

It would be more normal to sleep with the kirpaan, maybe under the pillow.

It is only because of small kirpaans that we are having these discussions.

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1 hour ago, ipledgeblue said:

Well Singhs used to wear long kirpaan, so I really doubt they had it in gatra while sleeping.

I'm pretty sure that gatra came around the british rule...

I think in the past, one would sleep with their hand around the kirpan or it at their side, that way they would be ready at a moment's notice. I know that Sikhs had shastars in dastaar but i don't know if they would have also had in while sleeping...

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