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it is a common place now to find queue systems in gurdwara to get langar. the concept of Sewa seems to be dilluted and washed away and has resulted in a generation who do not understand sewa. people do not want to do any work and take the easy option of setting up queue systems thinking that they are practical and efficient. In my opinion the queues tend to be going against the core principles of sewa. We are standing there waiting for people to come to us for langar when it should be the other way round. Would you make people queue up when they come to your house and you are serving them food ? Would you make any of our Guru Ji's wait in line to serve them langar ? No you wouldnt. SO WHY do you make his people stand inline cos you are too lazy to serve food with your heart and humbleness to all no matter who they are.

I find the this really fustrating as this is an important part of our religion and in most gurdwara we have lost the basic principles of sewa.

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it is a common place now to find queue systems in gurdwara to get langar. the concept of Sewa seems to be dilluted and washed away and has resulted in a generation who do not understand sewa. people do not want to do any work and take the easy option of setting up queue systems thinking that they are practical and efficient. In my opinion the queues tend to be going against the core principles of sewa. We are standing there waiting for people to come to us for langar when it should be the other way round. Would you make people queue up when they come to your house and you are serving them food ? Would you make any of our Guru Ji's wait in line to serve them langar ? No you wouldnt. SO WHY do you make his people stand inline cos you are too lazy to serve food with your heart and humbleness to all no matter who they are.

I find the this really fustrating as this is an important part of our religion and in most gurdwara we have lost the basic principles of sewa.

That is so ridiculous.

Could it be that the queueing system allows large numbers of people to be served quickly in langar halls which can get very crowded?? Could it be that from a food hygiene perspective (an issue that was perhaps less important many hundreds of years ago), serving food from one position (by as few people as possible) means there is less chance of contamination with germs, etc?

Using your principle, why doesn't the gurdwara set up a home delivery service for langar!! Why make people travel to the gurdwara. Wouldn't that be the ultimate form of sewa!

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That is so ridiculous.

Could it be that the queueing system allows large numbers of people to be served quickly in langar halls which can get very crowded?? Could it be that from a food hygiene perspective (an issue that was perhaps less important many hundreds of years ago), serving food from one position (by as few people as possible) means there is less chance of contamination with germs, etc?

Using your principle, why doesn't the gurdwara set up a home delivery service for langar!! Why make people travel to the gurdwara. Wouldn't that be the ultimate form of sewa!

How can you say that this is ridiculous ???? Have you any concept of SEWA ???

Mentalsingh is saying absolutely right. We are loosing the concept of sewa. Would we really ask our Guru to stand in a queue and be serverd langar? Is Sadhsangat not guru-roop?

So why does the sangat need to stand in a queue?

In the gurdwaras in India where the sangat is 10 times that of western countries do they not cope ? they ask sangat to sit in pangat and each person is server langar.

Did Mata Khivi Ji ask the sangat to stand in a queue? No, Mata Ji went around the pangats serving each person with langar.

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I am glad to see someone to understands true SEWA, thanks Bundha.

waiting in a queue is not efficient or practible. Do you like seeing older people waiting in a queue for ages then struggling to carry their trays full of food and a walking stick to find somewhere to sit ????? Its not the right to treat your sangat in this way. Sangat needs to get back to basics!!!

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I am glad to see someone to understands true SEWA, thanks Bundha.

waiting in a queue is not efficient or practible. Do you like seeing older people waiting in a queue for ages then struggling to carry their trays full of food and a walking stick to find somewhere to sit ????? Its not the right to treat your sangat in this way. Sangat needs to get back to basics!!!

Mentalsingh and Bundha

Just because two simple minded, mistaken people agree on something - it doesn't make it true.

If you have ever been to India, you will see that langar is generally some dal and roti... that can be managed relatively easily with people sitting in lines on the floor and the flow of people into langar halls during the day is relatively smooth.

In developed countries, the langar is now so over the top with at least 4 dishes and sweets in most temples - that the idea of serving it like 'Mata Ji' is impossible... and there is always a mad rush at weekday lunchtimes and Sundays, which is difficult to manage with limited resources.

Don't try to recreate some medieval form of langar distribution!!

What is important about langar is not the process or method of distribution - it is the principle of langar and what it symbolises.

...and yes, any self respecting, decent person would assist an old or special needs person in a langar hall.

This is what frustrates me about some 'very religous' people - they are obsessed with the process and minutiae of religous practice - they can not see the wood for the trees.

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Whitehorse, you are living a cuckoo land. Have you ever been to Harminder Sahib and seen how many thousands of people are served langar on a daily basis traditionally ? it runs smoothly because people go out their way to help and serve langar.

Yes they serve a simple langar, then why dont we serve langar in a more simple format ???? the principles of langar are not their to stuff yourself silly and make one more dish than the oher person so you can brag to your relatives etc. Its about sitting on a level with all people of different creeds etc.

Its people like you who would do work for the gurdwara and leave them with an Invoice for payment. You have no understanding of what our underlying principles are which are getting lost in.

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