July 25th (London) Sikhs & Hindus invited to

[GurSa Singh]

REMEMBER.

We must keep the pressure.

Ken Livingstone mayor@london.co.uk tel: 020 7983 4100

He must release a statement condemning the rally, and a plan of action in collaboration with the Met Police to stop it.

Metropolitan Police Authority membersservices@mpa.gov.uk tel: 020 7202 0184

They must provide reassurance with a constructive plan of action to make sure this illegal rally does not happen.

Commission for Racial Equality info@cre.gov.uk tel: 020 7939 0000

They must condemn the press statement and provide support to the Sikh Organisations involved in stopping this rally.

Your Local MP

Please email, ring, and arrange a meeting with your local MP to raise this issue in the House of Commons. They all have websites with contact details email & phone numbers.

Khalsa ji we must stop this public humiliation of our Religion and Human Rights. We have less than 1 week!

[Guest rsingh]

well i got a reply from The Board Of Deputies Of British Jews they say they have made there representation to the Mayor's office

[s s Jhamka]

vaheguru ji ka khalsa

vaheguru ji ki fateh

i spoke to some one at the mayors office, and they feel our concerns. they have not given them the go a head to do the rally, they will get arrestted if they do anything. i am speaking to my local police to send our concerns to the MET.

I feel we sud not fall into their trap, they have lost the war, they wanna keep alive their group by diverting attention from their infighting and their lost cause.

if u r going BEHAVE let them know the sikhs will not bow down to them and will give them a reminder what the sikhs of the past did to these dickheads.

AKAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

deg tegh fateh

panth ki jeet

sukdev

[natsilahk]

Someone just mentioned this idea to me actually,

If they do not have the mayor's authority for such an event.

Then crash the conversion.

Someone grab their own dj system and microphones, and start a rock concert in the middle, have sikhs just start playing football on the street.

Do something fun and that will mock their lame attempts at conversion.

I'm sure it will gain worldwide attention then too, and the world will have a nice laugh :wub:

[Guest noonespecial]

forget the rock concert.

Start doing kirtan!

[DhadiMania]

someone sent me this.

Dear Sir/Madam/Right Honourable,

I am writing this email regarding the above mentioned event taking place this sunday. At this event the organisers will ridicule both Sikhism, Hinduism and other faiths and prove the superiority of Islam by converting Sikhs and Hindus to Islam in public (Please see the link at the bottom for their racist advert and website).

http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_inter...le=10020&list=/

It is your duty to put an end to this by this week. This event must not be allowed to continue and I am sure you will understand that the United Kingdom is an example to the world of a place where many different cultures and religious have come together to build a great nation. People who organise events like the one below directly oppose all the hard work which we all put in everyday to make this country what it is.

Again, I would be grateful if you could put a stop to this event and make it known publicly that you have done so.

Regards and Many thanks,

Sarbjit Singh

[DhadiMania]

Please write a similar email and send to: Mayor@london.gov.uk and ruth.phillips@london.gov.uk

[Guest mehtab]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

I got this email from Harminder veerjee who also posts on this forum.

You have received this email as a matter of urgency. Please read it, act and

forward onto everybody you know as quickly as possible. Thank you.

There are 3 parts to this email ((1)) What is going on ((2)) It is time to ACT

NOW!!! ((3)) Information.

((1)) What is going on

There is a rally for Islam taking place on the 25th of July at Trafalgar Square

in London, UK where the organisers will ridicule Sikhism, Hinduism, Christianity

and other faiths and prove the superiority of Islam by converting Sikhs, Hindus,

Christians, Buddhists and even Jews to Islam in public. This CAN be STOPPED if

you ACT NOW!!! Remember that this event is an unauthorised rally (we've already

checked with the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =

"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />London authorities). This is even

more the reason to stop it. ACT NOW PLEASE!!!

((2)) It is time to ACT NOW!!!

You must do the following things to stop this event from happening:

(1) Email

You must write a short email telling the following authorities about this

unauthorised racist event that is going to take place at Trafalgar square. An

example email is given below the email addresses. You may want to just write one

email and BCC it to all of them.

(i) Mayor of London :: Mayor@london.gov.uk

r>(ii) The Home Office :: public.enquiries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk

(iii) Commission for Racial Equality :: pubs@cre.gov.uk

(iv) Ministry of Defence :: public@ministers.mod.uk

Example email

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It has been brought to my attention that an unauthorised rally is taking place

at Trafalgar Square on Sunday 25th of July. This is a racist event and should be

banned. The organisers are Al-Muhajiroun and they are planning to ridicule

Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Christians and other faiths by converting Sikhs, Hindus,

Jews, Christians and even Buddhists to Islam in public. Here is the link to

their website:

http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_inter...le=10020&list=/

Their literature which advertises this event is racist and so will be the

literature they plan to hand out to the general public. This event will hurt the

sentiments of every peace loving Hindu, Sikh and Christian in the UK and indeed,

did so last year too.

It is your duty to put an end to this event by the end of this week. This event

must not be allowed to continue and I am sure you will understand that the

United Kingdom is an example to the world of a place where many different

cultures and religious have come together to build a great nation. People who

organise events like the one below direct! ly oppose all the hard work which we

all put in everyday to make this country what it is.

Again, I would be grateful if you could put a stop to this event and make it

known publicly that you have done so. I hope you will do whatever is in your

power to stop it from taking place.

Many thanks for your time,

Singh.

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After you have sent an email like the one above to all the 4 email addresses

then continue to the next action, online protest...

(2) Join the Online Sikh Protest

Go to http://members.lycos.co.uk/khalsaakalfauj10/

(OR if this link is not working then go to: http://khalsaakal.w3.to or

http://gamerzworld.fun.ms or www.gamerzworld.frandt.com - we will direct you to

the protest from there, if in any case the main one goes down).

Basically we have set this site http://members.lycos.co.uk/khalsaakalfauj10/ up

a few days ago and it will continually reload the website http://www.jihadunspu!

n.com until it crashes the server/slows it down. In order for this to work

everyone must go to our website http://members.lycos.co.uk/khalsaakalfauj10/ and

click on the 'BEGIN THE ONLINE PROTEST' link and leave their browser running for

as long as possible.

IMPORTANT: You can go on to our website

http://members.lycos.co.uk/khalsaakalfauj10/ when you like, but make sure you

are DEFINITELY ON OUR WEBSITE on Wednesday 21st July 2004 at 9.00pm (21:00)

London Time. If you are another country/city in the world, obviously your times

& days shall vary. In this case go to:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixe...=0&sec=0&p1=136

This shall give you the time & day of our protest against the RACIST material on

this website. Make sure you remember to join us on this day and time. Thank you.

((3)) Information

There's a great deal of information here. Basically it rectifies the lies that

the organ

isers of the Islam Rally have used. This is one of a number of their

aggressive conversion techniques that Muslims are using against the rest of the

civilised world. They attempt to downgrade all religions by writing half truths

and misleading the world from the actual Truth. I have used the following

structure:

'Quote:' This is a quote from the website and something that these Muslims have

alleged, mainly lies. They tell people what they want to hear and do something

totally different.

'Truth:' This is the truth, which has been twisted by the Muslims on purpose, to

convert more Sikhs to Islam.

By doing this they are further destroying their own reputation and staining

Islam as an evil religion. They have brought this on themselves, if only they

realised what they are doing. Please read this information carefully and go to

the original websit! e if you wish, but it shall be taken down soon due to the

online protest. You may use the information below in any way you wish, in

articles, in newspapers, in flyers, we encourage you to do so. All the

information will also be posted on the website

http://members.lycos.co.uk/khalsaakalfauj10/ in case you need a formatted

version of the information. Thank you.

Press Release: Al-Muhajiroun, UK

Source: http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_inter...le=10020&list=/

"Hundreds of Muslims from across the UK are set to converge in London's

Trafalgar Square on the 25th of July for the Annual Rally for Islam. This year

will be the 9th anniversary of the rally and promises to be the best yet.

The British public will once again witness many non-Muslims: previously Jews,

Christians, Hindus & Sikhs (idol worshippers), Atheists, Socialists etc giving

up their f! alse beliefs and ideologies in

order to embrace the divine way of

life which Islam offers to them openly and publicly."

Quote: "Sikhs (idol worshippers)"

Truth: We DON'T worship idols. This is another twisting of the Truth, a

recognisable aggressive conversion technique - I feel sorry that their minds are

so closed and away from REALITY and more importantly, the Truth.

Quote: "The speakers will also set out to present Islam as the only real future

for Britain and indeed the World in terms of maintaining Honesty, Home-land

Security, Moralit! y, Mental well being, Family protection, continued scientific

and material progress, psychological health as well as providing a comprehensive

code for humanity to live their life by."

Truth: Maintaining security? Home-land Security? And...Morality? Is this

referring to the Twin Towers or I am somewhat mistaken to assume that it was

Muslims that actively tried to destroy morality and humanity by constantly doing

organised attacks on the world like on September the 11th. Continued scientific

and material progress? It's true to say that there have been many renowned

Muslim scholars, but all of them also challenged Islam and made everyone aware

of its inhumane Shari'ah laws and its religious dogmatism against all other ways

of life. Most of their literature has been destroyed by Islamists who didn't

want the truth to get out. However In The River War (1899), Winston Churchill's

account of the Sudanese campaign, he said:

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousa! nds become the brave

and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the

religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it."

Quote: "...presenting various aspects of Islam such as its unique economic

system able to solve the problems of inflation, the hoarding of wealth and the

fair distribution of resources - Islam's unique social system which eradicates

the exploitatio

n of the sexes"

Truth: Is this the reason why Islamic countries are some of the poorest

countries in the world with little or no quality of life. And I gather that the

unique social system they are referring to is killing of new born girls, women

having to wear Burkas (clothes that cover everything from head to feet), Gays

and Lesbians being treated unjustly and being killed, slitting women's throats

in public, a man being allowed to have 4 wives but not vice versa and suicide

bombing in the name of Allah. If there was such equality in Islam then men would

al! so be wearing Burkas and women wouldn't be treated like pets by having to

sit behind a Purdah (or curtain) whilst praying and not being entitled to their

own money.

Quote: "Islam's ruling system based upon the concept of sovereignty for God

alone, where man is not a dictator (like Bush or Blair) but rather God's trustee

on Earth managing mankind's affairs according to God's infallible law"

Truth: Again they must be referring to killing non-Muslims and suicide bombing

and instead of having Bush or Blair they would rather have Osama Bin Laden or

even Saddam Hussain. Whoever Saddam is, he's definitely not a trustee of God or

enlightened in any way and clearly does not know how to run a country. At least

Bush and Blair have improved the quality of life, stabilised the economy and

engineered their countries and promoted freedom of expression unlike Islam.

Quote: "Here is a message to all the Sikhs and Hindus; put your pride to one

side and accept the Truth."

Tr! uth: I will do thanks. And now its time to practice what you preach and love

everybody for who they are, only then will you come to understand God and the

real meaning of life. I plea to Muslims to stop their dogmatic beliefs and

realise that there is only 1 God and from this belief, God loves everyone for

who they are. The same God comes under many names, Allah, Waheguru, Jehovah,

>Ram, God, Merciful, Immortal - but it's the same God so why do you convert

people?

Quote: "Islam, the religion that you detest the most is really the only religion

that will help you when you leave this life."

Truth: Well the Sikh holy scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib, reveals that you can

realise God in the human life through love and compassion. When you die religion

has no significance, it's your actions that matter, have you led a truthful life

whilst on Earth? In the end, if you have love for God you will join God, if you

don't then you won't, irrespective of religion. So I think I'll s! tick where I

am thank you very much.

Quote: "To the Hindu's; forget the caste system and all the fuss about

reincarnation and accept the fact that everybody is equal in the eyes of God and

all will be accounted on the Day of Judgement"

Truth: The Day of Judgement is everyday in your life - what you sow is what you

shall reap. And there is no 'fuss' about reincarnation. There have been

thousands of cases of people remembering previous lives through hypnotic

regression or by themselves. Some young children have talents that they could

not have possibly learnt at such a young age e.g. the boy that could play piano

beautifully, they said he was Mozart in his previous life.

Quote: "As for the Sikhs, acknowledge, that as a man-made system your belief is

really just a hotpot of different religions and opinions "jumbled together""

Truth: The only thing mad made is this information. Sikhism is a universal way

of life in its purest form - not a religion. We are 'le! arners', learning to be

better people. They obviously know nothing about Sikhism. There is no MIX of

religions in Sikhism. What is Truth is Truth, no one can change that. There is

no alternative to loving the creation and God. You either do it or not. Opinion

will always remain opinion and will change, Truth will always remain true

f

orever.

Quote: "The fierce disagreements between Muslims and Hindu's have been going

since the advent of Islam."

Truth: No that was because Islam tried to forcefully convert the Hindus or

threatened to kill them and so the Sikhs came to help. The result was that the

9th Guru, Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji gave his life for the freedom of worship for all,

he was beheaded in public and became the 2nd Sikh Guru Martyr. Then the Muslims

lost their empire, they were defeated by the brave Saint-Soldier Sikh warriors

and the empire reinstated and given to the rightful owners by the Sikhs. This is

why some Muslims hold a grudge to the Sikhs. The Mogul Empire ! was defeated

because they were fighting for themselves, for money, power and were corrupt.

They had forgotten righteousness, truth, love and humility that Mohammad had

once taught. They were no longer Muslims, just evil minded thugs. And it was for

this reason that their empire was reduced to dust.

Quote: "The caste system was seen in its true nature; a racist structure geared

to preserve the rich over the poor."

Truth: They want to talk about Racism? If Islam accepts all religions, which

everyone knows it doesn't, then why are they doing this rally? What is the

purpose of this rally? Are they not being just as racist by shaming and

disowning other's beliefs in public. They are trying to humiliate other faiths

on false grounds. Do they want me to think that they're a considerate religion?

Do they want me to think that they are a tolerant religion? A religion of love?

Because all I see is aggressive conversion techniques, hatred and narrow

mindedness, a reputation th! at they have brought to themselves.

Quote: "Islam offered those at the bottom of the organization a way of being

equal and simultaneously having a belief system that fitted naturally with the

human self."

Truth: Again back to cutting women's throats in public, burial of new born girls

beca

use of the Dowry they shall have to give to the in-laws upon her marriage,

forceful marriages, if you are a Muslim and convert to another faith you shall

be killed, 1 man can have 4 wives but a woman cannot have more than 1 husband,

women must cover their faces in Burkas which cover everything, dictators like

Saddam Hussain oppressing the weak, no music allowed or freedom of expression,

no opportunities for diversity - Yes I really see equality and diversity here

(sarcasm). You are only fooling yourself if you believe that this is 'belief

system' which preaches equality.

Quote: "The Hindu tradition of worshipping idols was (and still is) seen as a

major act of ignorance, as cre! ation can never worship creation"

Truth: True, but you can recognise the beauty of the Creation and this helps to

praise God, what a wonderful universe, WOW, what a beautiful flower, there's

amazing harmony, perfection and self sustenance of the universe. What fantastic

mountains and trees, you're wonderful God...This is the principle of Naam Simran

in Sikhism. The first and foremost principle of the Sikh way of life - love for

the Creator which also creates a love for the creation and humanity.

Quote: "Also, the heavy emphasis on superstition places the individual under

much stress in his daily life. Islam in comparison has no place for false

notions"

Truth: Then why do you say the Black Stone on the Kaa'ba has powers to make the

soul clean? Why do you think that the direction to the Kaa'ba is so special? Why

do you raise Saddam and Osama to the level of God, why don't you listen to

yourself and look inside for the truth? This is superstition and also 'Shi'rk'

as you! say, giving God a partner. They claim that their religion is flawless?

What do you make of this then?

Quote: "Nanak could not accept Islam in its entirety so chose just the key

features that favoured him and the people."

Truth: Once a

Muslim came to Guru Nanak Dev Ji and said he wanted to convert to

Sikhism. The Guru told him to go and be a good Muslim. Sikhism is not a religion

it's a universal way of life. Anyone can be a Sikh and still follow their own

religion and as a result there are many Christian Sikhs, Muslims Sikhs, Hindu

Sikhs and even Buddhist Sikhs. Guru Nanak Dev Ji and all the other Gurus

preached Truth, the Gurus accepted that there many vehicles to God but only 1

real final path and that is of compassion, truth and righteousness. It is the

Muslims whose eyes and minds are too closed to see this. Also, Guru Nanak's

longest follower who went on his travels with him, Mardana, was a Muslim

therefore their argument is flawed.

Quote: "However, beca! use Sikhism is man-made it has many weaknesses."

Truth: Sikhism is not man made, this is the only argument you have against

Sikhism and it's a false one. This shall explain the Sikh ideology: When you

look at the horizon you see 2 things, a wave and an ocean. We are the waves and

can be physically seen when looking at the horizon, God is the ocean. The wave

doesn't realise the vast ocean. But soon enough when the wave has this

realisation of the ocean, it crashes, the wave becomes a part of the Ocean yet

again. It is no longer called a wave, its now called the Ocean. Guru Nanak Dev

Ji was therefore God in physical form, a wave aware of the ocean. And besides

Guru Nanak Dev Ji went into a river for 3 days and upon his return said "There

is no Hindu or Muslim, so whose path shall I follow God?" Guru Nanak Dev Ji saw

everyone as part of God, no different and had a message of Truth to give to the

world from God.

And 'weaknesses'? Which one's exactly? Sikhism the only re! ligion which has its

holy inter-faith scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib, signed by the Gurus

themselves to authenticate it, it's the only religion which has a Guru that died

for the freedom of worship

for ALL of humanity, especially the Hindus. Guru

Nanak Dev Ji is the only Guru to travel the furthest on foot in the 4 directions

to preach Truthful living. Sikhism is NOT a religion it's a universal way of

life that believes in equality in all forms. The Guru Granth Sahib contains

writing of Muslim Sufi Saints like Bhagat Kabeer Ji And Bhagat Fareed Ji and

even low caste Hindus like Bhagat Ravidaas so to eradicate both religious and

caste intolerance.

Islam on the other hand just says its believes in equality but if they did then

you would see men wearing Burkas and covering their faces in public. If there

was equality in Islam then why is there so much corruption? I'll tell you why

because the only agenda for Muslim governments is one thing, and that is that

the whole world ! be Islam. The reason for this is that they want the POWER,

MONEY & CONTROL.

However Guru Nanak Dev Ji once said "In the end the Truth will prevail", but as

long as we act now. We must stop this religious intolerance and make our voices

heard. So far, all their allegations have fallen through. Keep reading.

Quote: "all Sikhs must ponder the following: Firstly, the religion lacks depth

and is easily brainwashed by more dominant systems"

Truth: No not really. Cultural influences of Punjab and India are always greater

than the influences of religion. That's why some mosques have semi-spherical

domes and others lotus shaped domes, its culture. That is why in Islam you have

a white dress for marriage in Turkey a! nd a red dress in Pakistan. Islam is

just as much influenced by culture as any other religion. Inter-caste marriages

are because of Indian influence - its NOT SIKHISM. In America Sikhism is being

practiced in its purest form without any powerful cultural influences to

downgrade it. Many Sikhs today are living a Punjabi lifestyle rather than a Sikh

lifestyle - again culture NOT Sikhism.

Quote: "Hinduism still has a great i

nfluence on the Sikhs as the caste system

highlight - the idea that everyone is equal in the eyes of God is rarely

practised by the Sikh! s, as inter-caste marriage is still a taboo subject.

Secondly, Nanak made no claims to divinity or to kinship with God and did not

want to be worshipped as a kind of prophet."

Truth: When a wave realises its part of the ocean, it becomes the ocean,

connected to it, a part of it, even though its always been a part of it but just

never realised. The reason why Guru Nanak Dev Ji could not say he was a part of

God and therefore God, was because Guru Nanak was forward thinking and realised

that people would begin to worship him and so loose track of the meaning of life

which was compassion, love and righteousness. Guru Nanak Dev Ji had to give

people an example of humility and love and that is why many people converted to

Sikhism, not through forceful and aggressive regimes as this Islam rally, but by

Guru Nanak Dev Ji showing people compassion and love, the true way to live.

Quote: "But, today many Sikhs do this by hanging a picture of Nanak and

directing their prayers to! wards it."

Truth: Wrong again. If people do this they have fallen into the trap of Idol

worship which many Muslims fall into with their so called 'leaders' of their

faith. It's not Sikhism and will never be. Again this is a cultural influence of

India. But nowadays people have woken up and this does not happen as regularly.

People have finally woken up and realised the Truth cannot be realised by facing

in a certain direction, or praying to a certain idol, or forcefully converting

people, it can only be realised by having love for the Creation, love for pe!

ople, for who they are and what they believe in. Only then can you come to

realise how to love the Creator God.

Also you talk about directing prayers towards an object/picture? Well that's

what Muslims do 5 times a day towards the Ka'baa, an ob

ject which has no use or

significance to your level of spirituality. I also call that idol worship. Islam

is very fast to point out flaws in others religions and ways of life but forgets

to examine itself. This is a shame.

Quote: "Thirdly, unlike Islam where the doctrine has stood firm for over 1400

years, Sikhism has evolved taking in new directions with every new Guru. Key

elements of the religion have been dramatically altered such as the treatment of

the dead"

Truth: Yes, evolved for the better. We don't want to live in the past. We have

updated technologically and now have laptops and projectors in Gurdwaras (Sikh

place of worship). We make full use of technology. All the Gurus had 1 mission

and Sikhism was finalised by! our tenth master, Guru Gobind Singh Ji. The

Saint-Soldier concept finalised, Sikhism would be a religion that stood up for

the world. And this can be seen in both the World Wars and throughout history.

The Khalsa (baptised Sikhs) are known as Akal Purakh Ki Fauj, The Army of

Immortal God, and have never lost a battle in history. All the Gurus did their

part in evolving Sikhism. No elements have changed since then except where

culture intervened. This is what Bhagat Kabeer Ji said about burial:

"Worshipping their idols, the Hindus die; the Muslims die bowing their heads.

The Hindus cremate their dead, while the Muslims bury theirs; neither finds Your

true state, Lord. ||1||

O mind, the world is a deep, dark pit.

On all four sides, Death has spread his net. ||1||Pause||

Reciting their poems, the poets die; the mystical ascetics die while journeying

to Kaydaar Naat'h.

The Yogis die, with their matted hair, but even they do not find Your state,

Lord. ||2! ||

The kings die, gathering and hoarding their money, burying great quantities of

gold.

The Pandits die, reading and reciting the Vedas; women die, gazing at their o

wn

beauty. ||3||

Without the Lord's Name, all come to ruin; behold, and know this, O body.

Without the Name of the Lord, who can find salvation? Kabeer speaks the

Teachings."

Bhagat Kabeer Ji was actually a Muslim Sufi Saint and his teachings are

contained in the Sikh holy scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib. This is one of the

only inter-faith scriptures in the world and emphasises 2 things. Religion is

insignificant but your actions do matter. Everything that one does has a

consequence, it's a universal law. The second thing one deduces is that anyone

can reach God and so this Islam Rally could not have been further from the

truth. They are trying to convert people, but why? To what? To a religion that

is trying to dominate, is this any different to what the Nazis did? They have

not practiced righteousness, humility and love themselves but instead are

resorting to public racism openly. They have therefore missed the point to life,

I just hope they realise in time, they are digging their own graves.

Quote: "Surely, these facts that are just a scratch on the surface emphasise the

lack of Divinity found in this belief."

Truth: Scratch on the surface? They mean, that's the only thing they can come up

with. The above quote explains that it doesn't matter if you bury or cremate,

obviously Muslims have got so caught up with how to bury their dead they have

forgotten the essence of life. This is what Guru Nanak Dev Ji said:

"The clay of the Muslim's grave becomes clay for the potter's wheel.

Pots and bricks are fashioned from it, and it cries out as it burns.

The poor clay burns, burns and weeps, as the fiery coals fall upon it.

O Nanak, the Creator created the creation; the Creator Lord alone knows."

So even if you bury a body, the b! ody will decay and become soil. Soil becomes

clay and clay is used by the potter to make pots which are put in a kiln. The

clay BURNS. So in the en

d the buried body was cremated. That's what Guru Nanak

Dev Ji said, how true.

Quote: "Islam offers the individual and society peace, happiness and security"

Truth: Again I must refer back to September the 11th. They just write what

people want to hear to convert them and do something totally different i.e.

become suicide bombers.

Quote: "Furthermore, the love of money, which is so rife in both Hinduism and

Sikhism"

Truth: This is a blatant lie. If anyone, it is the Islamic countries that have

too much love for money and power that they shall do anything, even in the name

of Allah, to get some more.

Quote: "The Seal of Messengers, Prophet Mohammad (saw) said that at the lowest

level of Paradise each person will have up to 10,000 servants!"

Truth: I didn't know there were levels in heaven and besides having 10,000

servants seems to me like a burden greater than I can bear, also surely heaven

should be equal so why are there servants?. Is this hell they're talking about

or heaven? I'm not quite sure. True heaven is on Earth and comes when people

will look inside and discover the Ocean (Creator), this state of joy is called

Anand or everlasting happiness. These people will realise to love everyone for

who they are, irrespective of religion and all other differences.

[V]

vaheguru ji ka khalsa

vaheguru ji ki fateh

i spoke to some one at the mayors office, and they feel our concerns. they have not given them the go a head to do the rally, they will get arrestted if they do anything. i am speaking to my local police to send our concerns to the MET.

I feel we sud not fall into their trap, they have lost the war, they wanna keep alive their group by diverting attention from their infighting and their lost cause.

if u r going BEHAVE let them know the sikhs will not bow down to them and will give them a reminder what the sikhs of the past did to these dickheads.

AKAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

deg tegh fateh

panth ki jeet

sukdev

what di the Sikhs of the past do with them :wub: ?

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