Sikh Community Jointly Condemns English Defence League

[dalsingh101]

The national front NF now knwn as the BNP rioted in Southall not the EDL it did not exist during those times and had nothing to do with it ,neither did the leadership of EDL,half of whom were not even born.

Some of us are old enough and worldlywise enough to see yobbo goray low life scum when we see them. I know plenty of Sikhs who faced up to extremist sullah, none of them crawled up a gorays butt in order to do this. Any apna that does is a disgrace and a sell out.

Funny how when you see these EDL types Facebook accounts they always have tons of friends who are openly BNP, NF, Combat 18 supporters. Leaders of the EDL have BNP links. Get your head out of the sand and see reality before you embarrass yourself and the quom with your sycophancy and lack of astuteness in these matters.

[Southall Youth]

I will stick to my statement,as I believe that they are not BNP/C18. im not denying that these two nazi groups have joined the ranks of the EDL.

I support the core leaders of the EDL Tommy and so on as they have spokent he truth,its better than siding with the Hindus as in the silly statement that has been released,since when have these Hindus come out in support of us when we have had needs or needed help NEVER,shame on the British Sikh Council - you fake Khalistanis

[dalsingh101]

Just because a Sikh group and a Hindu one are both anti EDL it doesn't make them pals dude.

I don't like extremist Islam either but that doesn't make me a supporter of some trash Islamophobic white group who doesn't like them either.

How old are you?

In any case, tell me who the real K'stanis are these days as opposed to the fake ones please?

[Southall Youth]

Real Khalistanis are those that stick to their principals of not associating with Anti Sikh figures and people linked to Anti Sikh Anti Panth groups ,UNLIKE British Sikh Council they go on about Babbar Khalsa this that yet their rep's name appears alongside the likes of Virendra Sharma the ex overseas Congress President who smeared Shaheed Satwant Singh and Shaheed Beant Singh Ji in the Southall elections alongside making out Khalistanis are terrorists by postings leaflets at houses.All the Mandir presidents mentioned are pets of the RSS and honoured Gowalkar at a function in Wembley alongside SGSS Southall Ex president Sohi,this can be seen on Youtube.

British Sikh Council should THINK before they sign a statement ,OH AND I FORGOT Virendra Sharma and all the other non Sikhs mentioned are THE SIKH COMMUNITY LEADERS !!

[AK47 JATHA LION]

EDL is a recent phenomena which has gained alot of support from common goreh and few non whites in the UK. It is trying to go global.

Naturally a movement of this type will attract large numbers of hate mongers and racists.

However there is one side to this which is often overlooked. The increasing influence of militant islam needs to be put in check in the uk. Such organisations appear to slow down the progression of Islamicists such as Anjem Choudary the infamous Muslim cleric Nutcase. He has gone unchecked for years, allowed to say what he wants un-challeneged. Well not anymore, things are about to change.

It provides good entertainment to see the two sides go at it.

1 thing i will say is if Sikh Leaders jointly condemn EDL...

They should at least be more voiceful about their condemnation of Muslim clerics like Anjem Choudary. Commenting on recent groups is easy. How about the ones that have been around for years hate mongering?

ALmahajaroon the organisation he leads. Then once it was banned in uk, he changed the name to Islam4UK.

condemn these organisations openly and we will see less sikhs sympathising with EDL yobs.

[dalsingh101]

Who are Sikh 'leaders'?

If you mean the old foggies that run Gurdwaras (usually corruptly too), then I'm not surprised that they stay quiet and get on with fleecing funds.

Fact is, we haven't got any real leaders in the UK. By this I mean ones that have the support of the majority of the diverse panth, not self appointed ones or ones of various jathas.

Plus for an apna to threaten to join rightwing chav goray because people aren't vocally bad mouthing sullay is plain dumb.

I live in and have lived in a lot of sullay majority areas. Do you know how much impact EDL bewakoofi has here? I'll tell you - zip, zilch, nowt, nothing!

If anything, those idiots (like shortsighted gora policy in general of late) have done nothing but unite Muslims more than ever. Even ones that were at each others throats before.

Plus I was around when apnay were at the forefront of challenging Al Mujjaroin types years ago, so don't go on like apnay didn't deal with this issue a long time before low class goray jumped on the wagon and turned it into some chest beating, lager lout days out.

Don't be under the illusion that we HAVE TO choose a side between the rightwing tramp gora position and Islamic extremists. We don't. The people that do join the goray are the ones who are so terrified of sullay that they have lost their minds to an extent. That isn't Singh (lion) style at all. In fact it's a bit giddarh when you think about it.....

[esingh]

How can a Sikh join a movement that is based upon the hatred of every Muslim around? I hate Muslim extremists with a passion and have fought with them in the past, but the blind hatred of an entire group is something no Sikh should ever join and literally throws mud on our great values. What of the great Sufi Muslims who were the companions of our masters? They also believed in the same Allah.

Anyhow let's just suppose for one minute that this group is "safe" for us to join. Once they have got rid of the Muslims or scared then into submission, what guarantee is there they they won't turn on us? Having read the views of many of them, they are just going along with this whole "bring the other Asians on board" stuff to accomplish an objective. I can recall the leader of the BNP Nick Griffen doing this as well, something which I might add failed miserably. People should recall what he famous German pastor, Martin Niemmoller said about the rise of the Nazis:

They came first for the Communists,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me

and by that time no one was left to speak up.

We are More than capable of handling any threat posed by people who wish our community harm, which has been demonstrated in the past. We don't need drug, drink fuelled racists in order to do so.

Guru fateh

[TurbanCampaign]

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Waheguru ji ki Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh.

We would like to update the community of recent signatories who support the joint statement.

27/12/2010

• Darshan Singh Gurm, General Secretary, Singh Sabha London East Barking & Seven Kings.

• R. Singh, Spokesperson, Mata Sahib Kaur Sikh Academy, Newbury Park, Ilford.

29/12/2010

• Gurcharan Singh, Councillor, Ealing Southall

Quote from supporting email: "I am fully supportive of the joint statement and subscribe to it in full. This (EDL and BNP) menace must be fought on every step of the way."

The full statement can be found at the URL below along with PDF copies of the signatures:

http://www.turbancam...tement-release/

[Whitehorse]

The national front NF now knwn as the BNP rioted in Southall not the EDL it did not exist during those times and had nothing to do with it ,neither did the leadership of EDL,half of whom were not even born.

Have you actually been to an EDL rally?

I came across one on the High St in Kensington a few months ago ---- and Sikhs have nothing in common with that crowd. They are the same people who used to hurl racial abuse at football matches in the 80s and 90s.

Muslims today, Sikhs tomorrow.

You may know the quote:

They came first for the Communists,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me

and by that time no one was left to speak up.

[SarabhaPanjab]

it beggars belief how dumb our people can be sometimes.

Look.. lets rewind and go back to basics.

EDL: Who are they?

The are a MIXTURE of different schools of thought, united against the islamification of Britain and extremist forms of Islam which may pose a direct physical threat.

There is a good percentage of genuinely concerned individuals, and also good percentage of racist thugs.

UAF: Who are they?

Supposedly anti-racists, but in the demos, mostly made up of Black and muslim street youth, aswel as militant Islamists. plus small percentage of hippy, tree huggers and genuine anti-fascists

Ok so who do Sikhs support?

Ermm.. well we do not want militant islam to rule us, but we also dont wanna get head butted by a skin head trying to kick us out of the country.

How about we support NO ONE! Both of them pose a threat to some degree to Khalsa Priciples.

Sit at home.. Gosh man, when we need Sikh support against beadbi or Sikh human rights, these guys arnt no where to be seen.

And its so annoying when you politicians speak on behalf of Sikh youth, because you don't have a clue

Turban Campaign- Why don't you collect those signatures against the Turban Ban in France?! That's a better suited and appropriately named campaign

But saying all this, if I was forced to choose in favour of one parties, it would be EDL, Why? Because:

- 90% of racist attacks I have seen on Sikh youth have been by Paks

- All cases I have known of paedophilia groomed abuse of young Sikhs girls has been at hands of Pakistanis

- Racist attacks at events, Gigs, Vaiskahi events, melas, eid have been by Pakistanis

- Kidnap cases of Sikh girls by Paks.

Those marginalised, frustrated Sikh youth, fed up with the system, Fed up with the Gurdwaras will find refuge with EDL. People like Gurmit Singh, and many others. The Turban Campaign will only push more of these people towards the EDL. It is stupid and dangerous.

As Sikhs, we should stand for our own Agenda's.. We have good singh's doing sewa in these fields, who are helping victims, and highlighting issues. Support them, listen to them, understand the problem.

Don't be a Publicity hungry Bandwagon fool!