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Waheguru, it's a long coming, I for one, am shocked at the arrongance and conceit members of this committee have shown, this attitude of trying to find loop holes and thinking that they are higher than the sandesh and hukamnama from akal takht, will surly come now to hit them in the face,

So many attempts have been made to try and with them, and initiate peaceful dialogue...then we as sangat will accused of being fanatics and trouble makers for protesting at their door...lol

It is also worth noting that Grey's had this similar attitude that thier gurdwara's reputation was tarnished because of the satkaar campaign, well if u as a community refuse to list and discuss and negotiate and think by burying ur head in the sand will cause Sangat to forget what's happening...of couse u are simply inviting a protest on ur doorstep so don't moan when 100's of Sikhs are at ur gate asking for the respect of our Guru and his teachings to be adhered to....

Sangat jio please spread the message far and wide, and west midlands has so much gursikh sangat....let's not make excuses and show our unity and support in a preaceful and proactive way for Guru Maharaj.... :-)

Beanti to update ur facebook and twitter status with dates and times of protest rally...

Waheguru

It's is very safe to say that RST have brought

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Wjkk wjkf. So good that we are all uniting together to do this protest it Is sad that the gurdwara commitee has not responded beforehand. Ramgaria gurdwara in Wolverhampton westbury street have bought the GKN building and told the Express and star newspaper that one of the halls uses will be for wedding parties. Its a sad thought that majority of the Ramgarhia gurdwaras committee members consume alcohol, eat meat.

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Wjkk wjkf. So good that we are all uniting together to do this protest it Is sad that the gurdwara commitee has not responded beforehand. Ramgaria gurdwara in Wolverhampton westbury street have bought the GKN building and told the Express and star newspaper that one of the halls uses will be for wedding parties. Its a sad thought that majority of the Ramgarhia gurdwaras committee members consume alcohol, eat meat.

Bhenji, I think you will sadly find some prabhandak committees in many Gurdwaras who do not follow Sikhi but still put themselves forward as leaders. This problem is not exclusive to RST or any other Gurdwara with the specific Ramgharia label, this problem exists in a number of Gurdwaras.

The Rally is not just solely against RST committee, as stated above by Satkaar, the Rally's main aim is to raise awareness of the growing trend that some Gurdwara Committees believe they need to cater for the ostentatious party scene by promoting alcohol, meat and parties. RST are just one of 14 other known Gurdwaras in the UK who violate Sikh principles. From the sounds of it, unless Gursikhs act now there will be more Gurdwara Complexes investing in catering for the drunk punjabi party scene.

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wjkk wjkf

RST website says "We would like your views on this and would welcome responses to info@rstbirmingham.com"

Dear all,

Can we all send a polite email (EVERYONE) and CC Satkar in the same email. Please raise your views and write if you are happy with serving of alcohol and meat etc. in the hall or not.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be polite in the email and simply give your view on the issue only.

REMEMBER, no personal attack or anything offensive.

RST have given us a chance to say something on this issue, so we should make the most of it.

Please DO NOT FORGET to CC satkar in the email which you will send you RST.

Satkar's email are: Satkaar@hotmail.co.uk

SatkaarSevadaars@hotmail.co.uk

wjkk wjkf

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Press Release and Sangat Update

Birmingham, UK - 4 January 2011

RST BIRMINGHAM AGREES TO STOP MEAT, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND PARTIES AT HALL

Peaceful rally on Saturday 15 January 2011 is on hold, with a view to it being cancelled

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Further to our previous Sangat Update on 2 January 2011, RST Birmingham have released a statement on their website which includes the following:

"A Committee meeting took place yesterday on Sunday 2nd January 2011 at Ramgarhia Sikh Temple in which it was decided that no further bookings will be made for Maharaja Jassa Singh Ramgarhia Hall where the families want to provide meat and alcohol and the commitee will be feeding back this information to the members and the sangat."

The full statement can be seen on www.rstbirmingham.com.

There are some uncertainties in the above statement, but we have received some further assurances in our conversations with the President, Jasvinder Singh Sagoo. A meeting has been arranged between the RST committee and representatives of the UK Sangat during the weekend of 8-9 January 2011 to formally clarify any outstanding issues. There have also been positive discussions in relation to alternative potential uses for the Maharaja Jassa Singh Ramgarhia Hall, as well as the Satkaar Campaign arranging a Gurmat Camp at RST Birmingham.

These are extremely positive steps taken by the RST committee, for which we thank them. Guru Ji has showered His blessings on the UK Sangat.

Due to these reasons, the peaceful rally planned on Saturday 15 January 2011 is on hold, with a view to it being cancelled. A further statement will be released by the Satkaar Campaign in due course, after the meeting with the RST committee has taken place.

One point that the Satkaar Campaign would like to re-iterate, as we have repeatedly mentioned, is that the UK Sangat must at all times communicate courteously and respectfully whenever discussing any issue with any Gurdwara committee - this is the Gursikh way. The implementation the 2006 Sandesh must be handled with pyaar, humility and respect, as per Akal Takhat Sahib's Jathedaar's comments on Sikh Channel on 4 December 2010.

The RST committee have shown us an extremely offensive email which was sent by an individual to the RST committee in relation to this issue. The Satkaar Campaign does not take responsibility for the actions of such person and the UK Sikh Sangat considers such behaviour as completely unacceptable.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

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This is FANTASTIC news, all credit goes to Satigur Akal Purkh for giving the opportunity to the UK Sangat to stop such a maha paap from ocurring any longer. Vadhiyaan to all Sikh Sangat who did their part!

A word of caution, I would not bow to the wishes of the RST who want the names etc put forward of the local sangat who were unhappy, so that they are then able to pressure them once the spotlight has moved off the Gurdwara. It is key that people who are disturbed by the manmat of party halls in Gurdwaray be confident in the fact that they can come to Satkaar with their worries and be confident in the fact that the Sevadaars will keep confidentiality, to protect their interests.

Also they request that there be no future demonstrations, I 'd advise against this too, as we are unable to see into the future, so this would be unwise - who knows - what happens if they revert to type?

I'm not sure how far the Satkaar people want to go, but note should also be taken of the "meat and alcohol", nothing re: Bhangra etc. Just an observation

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