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Clubbing, Bhangra, Etc

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Guest Kaur 90

Hi

I'm not into Sikhi yet but the other day I went to my Sikh soc talk and the speaker was saying it's ok go clubbing, and nothing wrong with Bhangra. My family aren't religious but my cousins are and they said it's wrong.

I'm confused! The talk was called Love, Sex & Magic... After Marriage?

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Guest Kaur 90

Oxford Brooke uni

The speaker was also saying how divorce is ok amongst other things and then we all went to nandos.

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This speaker is 100% wrong and in my opinion should be slapped across the face for saying such things. Some might say thats harsh, but when you set up a meeting and place yourself as a speaker for Sikhi and you reinforce to the youth and others that clubbing and bhangra have nothing wrong with them, then you deserve lot more than just a smack across the face. I'm surprised no one stood up in the middle of this speakers manmat discourse and told him/her, what they said is wrong. These coward speakers prey on gullible university students.

Like everyone is asking, who was this speaker?

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Guest fellow singh

NOPE ITS TRUE

was at the talk too.....

the speaker was singh called sodhi singh (from gravesend) and his co-speaker was Balkaar Singh Shergill (seen around the nihang scene in the UK quite a lot)

sodhi singh i believe he was involved in sikh student camp too and is a close friend of bobs?

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Guest Sikh_Soc Brookes

WJKK WJKF,

I'd like to just make a simple point that the speaker most definitely did not say that clubbing is ok and neither did he say that divorce is ok. Moreover, those who wish to criticise the society and other sikh societies may wish to come down and help us improve our events instead of pointlessly slandering them on these forums. There is a shortage of speakers these days and we would gladly welcome any help or suggestions for improvements. Finally, there is always a chance to discuss events in the following week, as our regular sikh soc members will know, therefore we look forward to meeting kaur 90, fellow singh, and anyone else who wishes to discuss the event during our next meeting.

Rab Rakha.

WJKK WJKF.

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Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji KI Fateh

On behalf of the Oxford Brookes Sikh Society Committee, I would like to make a statement.

We are saddened that a member of the society does not feel comfortable enough to come forward with their questions or comments and would like to emphasise that they are free to do so at any time in an open and friendly atmosphere.

OBUsikhsoc have a guest speaker every few months to speak about issues which the committee (and usually the members) feel affect the sikh youth/students. After each event, the follow up meeting (held a week later) is an open forum for discussion and commentary regarding what was spoken about in the lecture. Criticism, is encouraged. We achknowledge that our speakers are only human and may sometimes bring their own views/opinions into the discussion.

We feel that much of what has been written here has been taken out of context/the writer may have misunderstood the Speaker.

However, if you still feel that this is not the case, then please come forward to speak to us directly so that we can sit down and analyse this together.

THanks

Vaheguroo Ji Ka KHalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh

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Guest Mr Nihang Singh

Well,

Sodhi Singh regularly does talks down in universitys towards gravesend and down south, i have attended many of his talks. He knows his history and is generally a good talker, about sikh artifacts and how the history is being destroyed etc - in the sense he knows how to deliver a talk, but some of the points are very questionable... However

He does talk about bhangra, punjabi songs, once he even tries to bust out a move. Look at his facebook, many pictures in the club.

I read somewhere else that he did a sikhi bhangra quiz aswell as a university, and when a singh questioned the sikh society he was slandered over facebook - well i read the comments on sodhis facebook and then asked around.

Yeh he is a friend of Bob, kamalroop - all ex/current students of niddar and all ex/current helpers of sikh student camp/sikh camp.

They do have diluded views and try to subtly put them into their talks - e.g. about meat, bhangra - issues with other sikh organisations.

I dont understand them, they look like nihang singhs but have a more 3ho and western sikhi than anything old.

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Guest rah

This thread is quite pointless, and irrelevant. There is no point in writing about speakers, and about who they know and what they are like.

Clearly the problem is that someone, or a group of individuals who attended the talk did not completely agree with what was said. This individual has therefore decided to start and anonymous thread, so that others who were not even at the talk can enlighten everyone with their, quite frankly, invalid opinions.

A suggestion would be to highlight concerns or questions at the talk, talk to the speakers, or approach one of the society's committee members, instead of hiding behind a computer screen and starting something that gives a chance for people out there to cuss and talk badly of others.

If you have a problem... then say so - to their face.

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Guest Moorakh

As someone who attended the talk, and as an Amritdharee who herself doesn't go clubbing etc, I can say without bias that there was no promotion of clubbing or Bhangra. No one is perfect I think the bhaji was just being open as to what he himself does (even though i dont agree with such activities myself); I did talk to him afterwards about this which is what anyone who disagreed with anything he said should have done too.

As it is the talk as a whole was quite good and he was good at integrating and talking to the sangat afterwards and during the talk and be on a level with them. Really there is no need to post on Sikh sangat and encourage nindiya of ANYONE- instead talk to the Singh or the parbandhaks

Just my two cents

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What is the state of sikh socs when manmat people like these are even allowed to give their opinions in the name of parchar? Are there no decent speakers who follow or try to follow Gurmat to the best of their ability, available to give talks?

I'm sorry but having listened to what this sodi chap has to say......be careful not to be in same boat as a captain who's hell bent on sinking his own ship.....and we certainly hope no town has lost their favorite local clown.

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