Is Krishna The Most Supreme God Worshipped In Guru Granth Sahib Also ?

[harsharan000]

 

 

                                            Is Krishna The Most Supreme God Worshipped In Guru Granth Sahib Also ?

 

No, he isn´t.

For if he was so, First Patshahee would have said : Ik Oankar, Krishna.

And we all know, what He said.

He said at the very begining of the Bani : Ik Oankar Satnam.

Means, there is only one Lord, Satnam. Satnam is a word composed by 2 syllabels, which are Sat and Nam.

SAT, means Supreme Truth, that which is permanent, eternal, and changeless under any circumstances, irrespective of  the parameters of time and space; and that Power, that energy, that level of Consciousness, which is Sat, that is known and named by Guru Jee as : NAM.

The rest of the qualities of this Primal Being, Nam, are described by Sachay Patshah Dhan Dhan Satguru Nanak Dev Maharaj, from the second verse onwards of the mool mantar.

Sat Sree Akal.

 

[rameshgk]

Because he is the parabrahma swaroopam. An Avtar is the descent of the supreme godhead. Krishna is a poorna avatar. meaning  he is the complete....manifestation of the supreme being.  

[Arsh1469]

1 hour ago, rameshgk said:

Because he is the parabrahma swaroopam. An Avtar is the descent of the supreme godhead. Krishna is a poorna avatar. meaning  he is the complete....manifestation of the supreme being.  

Read Chobis Avtar

[Koi]

Yes and no. What you need to understand is, in the Gita, when Bhagwan Sri Krishan Ji Maharaj says that they are everything, they are not speaking as Vasudev Krishan Yadav from Gokul. They are speaking as aatam-swaroop (Man tu jot saroop hai, apna mool pachhaan). We need to stop viewing these things with an Abrahamic mindset, then we'll find there are actually no contradictions here...

[Arsh1469]

1 hour ago, Koi said:

Yes and no. What you need to understand is, in the Gita, when Bhagwan Sri Krishan Ji Maharaj says that they are everything, they are not speaking as Vasudev Krishan Yadav from Gokul. They are speaking as aatam-swaroop (Man tu jot saroop hai, apna mool pachhaan). We need to stop viewing these things with an Abrahamic mindset, then we'll find there are actually no contradictions here...

About the Gita the sangat should read Gobind Gita it is Guru Gobind Singh Ji's katha of Bhagwad Gita

Handwritten Gobind Gita by Guru Ji

Gobind Gita from Scribd

[GurjantGnostic]

On 2/27/2011 at 2:17 AM, Guest SarabjeetSingh said:

I was not going to say so , but after going through these , what is to say that Krishna isn't Akal Purakh Waheguru himself ?

O my Father, Lord of wealth, blessed are You, long-haired, dark-skinned, my darling. ||1||Pause||

ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.

ਦੁਹਸਾਸਨ ਕੀ ਸਭਾ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਅੰਬਰ ਲੇਤ ਉਬਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥

In the court of Duhsaasan, You saved the honor of Dropati, when her clothes were being removed. ||1||

ਗੋਤਮ ਨਾਰਿ ਅਹਲਿਆ ਤਾਰੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਕੇਤਕ ਤਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

You saved Ahliyaa, the wife of Gautam; how many have You purified and carried across?

ਐਸਾ ਅਧਮੁ ਅਜਾਤਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਤਉ ਸਰਨਾਗਤਿ ਆਈਅਲੇ ॥੨॥੨॥

Such a lowly outcaste as Naam Dayv has come seeking Your Sanctuary. ||2||2||

(SGGS : 988)

Pondering over above shabad , wasn't it Krishna who saved honor of draupadi ? Also , God is formless , Chakra is related to Krishna .

ਨਿਰਾਹਾਰੀ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥

He is beyond need of any sustenance, free of hate and all-pervading.

ਧਾਰਿ ਖੇਲੁ ਚਤੁਰਭੁਜੁ ਕਹਾਇਆ ॥

He has staged His play; He is called the four-armed Lord.

ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਰੂਪ ਬਣਾਵਹਿ ਬੇਣੁ ਸੁਨਤ ਸਭ ਮੋਹੈਗਾ ॥੯॥

He assumed the beautiful form of the blue-skinned Krishna; hearing His flute, all are fascinated and enticed. ||9||

ਬਨਮਾਲਾ ਬਿਭੂਖਨ ਕਮਲ ਨੈਨ ॥

He is adorned with garlands of flowers, with lotus eyes.

ਸੁੰਦਰ ਕੁੰਡਲ ਮੁਕਟ ਬੈਨ ॥

His ear-rings, crown and flute are so beautiful.

ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਧਾਰੀ ਮਹਾ ਸਾਰਥੀ ਸਤਸੰਗਾ ॥੧੦॥

He carries the conch, the chakra and the war club; He is the Great Charioteer, who stays with His Saints. ||10||

ਪੀਤ ਪੀਤੰਬਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ॥

The Lord of yellow robes, the Master of the three worlds.

ਜਗੰਨਾਥੁ ਗੋਪਾਲੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਭਣੀ ॥

The Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the world; with my mouth, I chant His Name.

ਸਾਰਿੰਗਧਰ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਬੀਠੁਲਾ ਮੈ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਸਰਬੰਗਾ ॥੧੧॥

The Archer who draws the bow, the Beloved Lord God; I cannot count all His limbs. ||11||

( SGGS : 1082)

The above shabad also sounds similar to description of Krishna . Actually , a RSS Sikh hater used same shabad against me to prove that Sikhism also worships Krishna .

ਸੰਖ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਮਾਲਾ ਤਿਲਕੁ ਬਿਰਾਜਿਤ ਦੇਖਿ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪੁ ਜਮੁ ਡਰਿਓ ॥

He is adorned with the conch, the chakra, the mala and the ceremonial tilak mark on his forehead; gazing upon his radiant glory, the Messenger of Death is scared away.

(SGGS : 1105)

CAN SOME SIKHS PUT SOME LIGHT ON THIS TOPIC ?

Lord of yellow rodes indicates Avtar status during a Yugh. 

[Anu10]

On 3/2/2011 at 6:06 PM, VanHelsingh said:

I agree with the points made by my learned brothers and sisters who say we have not been told to worship Krishna.

Has anyone read Mahabharata? I mean the full text? Before the battle against the Kauravas when Arjun loses his nerve and doesn't want to fight, Krishna has a one-to-one conversation with him which - if I remember correctly - is what is known today as the Bhagwad Gita. Has anyone seen the manner in which Krishna refers to himself in those verses? Its as if he believes he himself is the Creator - not just someone sent by God. Its very.....I don't know in-case I say something disrespectful but it comes across as if Krishna is saying "I am God".

Does anyone with greater knowledge on the subject know why he would speak in such a manner?

Basically, Krishna is 1) not referring to himself but God. He’s explaining the true essence of this way of life. By “I” he means God 2)  He is an avatar, he is the human form of a cosmic energy that is apart of God. Therefore he is considered God. However he has never called himself God.