Sikh Channel & Dudley Protest

[VanHelsingh]

If the Golak is Guru ji's and it's used to purchase a building, then who then will own the building?

By that rationale, someone uses funds from Guru Ji's golak to buy some XXX-rated DVDs. Do we attribute the DVDs to Guru Ji because money from the golak was used to buy them? Where do you draw the line? Anything manmat is still attributed to Guru Ji? I thought you said the building wasn't Guru Ji's property? So now it is?

I apologise for being so blunt but you asked the question and I answered.

[AnakinSkywalker]

That scenario would be an abuse of the funds.

I'm talking about the building that you referred to in your quote below

It's a very simple question that you seem to have difficulty in answering.

Again I ask.

To answer your question above, because funds from Guru Ji's golak were used to purchase the building or fund it's construction.

If the Golak is Guru ji's and it's used to purchase a building, then who then will own the building?

[VanHelsingh]

That scenario would be an abuse of the funds.

I'm talking about a building.

I understand. Serving meat and alcohol in a golak-funded building is an appropriate use of funds from Guru Ji's golak but XXX-rated DVDs are not. Okay thanks for clearing that up.

It's a very simple question that you seem to have difficulty in answering.

Again I ask.

If the Golak is Guru ji's and it's used to purchase a building, then who then will own the building?

I told you I already answered it. If my reply is not to your satisfaction that is not my problem. Here, I'll paste my reply below if you can't find it on the previous page...

.....I use that term (Guru Ji's property) tentatively as the building may be in the committee's name, but any right-minded person would never consider a building used to serve alcohol and meat as Guru Ji's property. It's a huge insult to Guru Ji to suggest that, despite the activities that take place within it's confines, it can somehow be proudly associated with Guru Ji. It may be "Guru Ji's property" on whatever dotted line it was signed for, but for any Sikh there's not a chance in hell it can be attributed to Guru Ji.

[AnakinSkywalker]

Oh so by your logic either the building was never owned by Guru ji, (even though Guru Jis golak was used to fund or purchase it) or if it was once owned by Guru Ji, (which you haven't admitted it was) the ownership was somehow magically transferred to someone else once beadbi occurred in that building!

:D

[HSD1]

I still cant get over all the spilled cholay. What a waste.

:cry:

[VanHelsingh]

Oh so by your logic either the building was never owned by Guru ji, (even though Guru Jis golak was used to fund or purchase it) or if it was once owned by Guru Ji, (which you haven't admitted it was) the ownership was somehow magically transferred to someone else once beadbi occurred in that building!

:D

Like I said, a Sikh would never consider that building belonging to Guru Ji if meat and alcohol was being served in it. By saying that the building is Guru Ji's is implying that Guru Ji approves what was occuring inside the building. Once beadbi occured, it should not have been referred to as Guru Ji's property.

You're the fella that yesterday said it was Guru Ji's property. This morning/afternoon you changed your stance to "Erm...it's not Guru Ji's property" and now you're saying "Yes, it's Guru Ji's property!". Make up your mind!

I love that phrase "Guru Ji's property". I've used it so much today. Makes me feel all warm inside.

[AnakinSkywalker]

I still cant get over all the spilled cholay. What a waste.

:cry:

You know what they say...don't cry over spilt cholay....

[VanHelsingh]

You know what they say...don't cry over spilt cholay....

Or spilt daroo...:laugh2:

EDIT: Was alcohol spilt in the kerfuffle? No I don't think it was. Oh well, whatever else that was spilt on Saturday. Spilt plates of meat curry?

[HSD1]

So what's going to happen now? Are they still going to offer the hall for parties after they've cleared up?

[darknight]

lets get one thing straight the freehold was purchased by the gurdwara purely out of gurdwara golak funds........yes the building itself was built from other sources.......including a contribution from the nishkam sevak jatha and baba ji himself laid the first brick.....all these are facts!!!

guru ji's property/land has been used for immoral purposes...end of!!!

what we should be talking about is the woman spokesperson for the centre how dare she call mahraj da saroop...a book......further beadbi here to a national audience what a total disgrace!!!