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Hiding in the shadows.... Thats what this above poster is good for. I post after a long period of time and the above poster doesn't even take 30 mins to come on sikhsangat to respond. If you look a

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I watched the Dudley Protest show on Sikh Channel last night at 9.30pm...now while the Gursikhs in the Studio correctly stated what occurred on the day and they did so very well but the only video's s

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hay, no need to speculate, i saw what happened in dudley myself,

ahh so west london, you boys all live in shed's on teh fight path to heathrow, so the cheap seats of london town, and all work at the airport as cleaners,

atleast the people of dudley are hard working and have time for each other.

you londoners dont even speak to each other with a smile, its always why u speaking to me! and you talk about poverty.

when you develop some warmth for another person in the world then speak ,

Looks like Mr Dudley wants us to develop some warmth for him!

Has anybody felt and warmth coming from Mr Dudley on this Forum? Mr Dudley will be asking us to show some warmth to Hilter, Pol Pot, and Indira Gandhi next!!

By the way if you Look at Mr Dudley's posts, Mr Dudley doesn't answer the questions you put to him. It is worth talking to Mr Dudley?

Sadh Sangat Ji, Be savvy to Mr Dudley ways - it is very clear that he dislikes the Khalsa Panth & the 5 K's Guru Gobind Singh Ji gifted to the Panth.

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, you all know that Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, and his daughter Indira Gandhi wanted the Sikhs to forget Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the Khalsa Panth Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji started, and the 5 K's Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji gifted to the Panth!! We can all supply this forum with loads of references to statements and press releases from Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, and his daughter Indira Gandhi, where, they clearly disrespected Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj, the Khasla Panth, and the 5 K’s (especially the Kirpan). All 3 of them hated the Amritdhari of the Khalsa Panth !!!<B><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></B>

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, you also know that it is a known fact, that, Nehru and his daughter Indira Gandhi were the direct descendants of Gangu Ram. Gangu Ram was the individual who tricked Mata Gujri Ji and the two infant Sahizade, Sahibzada Zorawar Singh Ji (only 7 years old) and Sahibzada Fateh Singh (only 5 years old), to his house. Gangu Ram then informed the Kotwal of Morinda about their presence in his house. Then Jaani Khan brought them as prisoners to Sirhind. Faujdar Wazir Khan of Sirhind imprisoned them in the Thanda Burj (cold Fort). This lead to Mata Gujri Ji dying in the tower and the two infant Sahibzade being bricked alive. The Sahibzades knee caps were smashed in with a hammer to keep the wall straight, whist they were conscious. The wall fell when it reached their necks, and I have heard, that at that point, their throats were slit. These infant sons of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj endured all the pain and shaheedi to keep the Panth and the 5K’s going, which you all enjoy today. You will clearly see that Mr Dudley has an inherent hate for the Panth and the 5K’s (the Amritdhari of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj).

I'm sure that if, Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, and Mrs Indira Gandhi (daughter of Nehru) and descendant of Gangu Ram, were still alive to join with in the oppression and supression the Khalsa Panth which still continues in india todya, then they would all have given Mr Dudley and big hug and kiss, for continuing their work for them!!! I am sure Mr Dudley is made very happy and proud by the thought of Gandhi, Nehru, Indira, and Gangu Ram, all giving him a BIG HUG, for him continuing their work today!!

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Looks like Mr Dudley wants us to develop some warmth for him!

Has anybody felt and warmth coming from Mr Dudley on this Forum? Mr Dudley will be asking us to show some warmth to Hilter, Pol Pot, and Indira Gandhi next!!

By the way if you Look at Mr Dudley's posts, Mr Dudley doesn't answer the questions you put to him. It is worth talking to Mr Dudley?

Sadh Sangat Ji, Be savvy to Mr Dudley ways - it is very clear that he dislikes the Khalsa Panth & the 5 K's Guru Gobind Singh Ji gifted to the Panth.

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, you all know that Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, and his daughter Indira Gandhi wanted the Sikhs to forget Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the Khalsa Panth Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji started, and the 5 K's Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji gifted to the Panth!! We can all supply this forum with loads of references to statements and press releases from Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, and his daughter Indira Gandhi, where, they clearly disrespected Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj, the Khasla Panth, and the 5 K's (especially the Kirpan). All 3 of them hated the Amritdhari of the Khalsa Panth !!!<B><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></B>

Dear Sadh Sangat Ji, you also know that it is a known fact, that, Nehru and his daughter Indira Gandhi were the direct descendants of Gangu Ram. Gangu Ram was the individual who tricked Mata Gujri Ji and the two infant Sahizade, Sahibzada Zorawar Singh Ji (only 7 years old) and Sahibzada Fateh Singh (only 5 years old), to his house. Gangu Ram then informed the Kotwal of Morinda about their presence in his house. Then Jaani Khan brought them as prisoners to Sirhind. Faujdar Wazir Khan of Sirhind imprisoned them in the Thanda Burj (cold Fort). This lead to Mata Gujri Ji dying in the tower and the two infant Sahibzade being bricked alive. The Sahibzades knee caps were smashed in with a hammer to keep the wall straight, whist they were conscious. The wall fell when it reached their necks, and I have heard, that at that point, their throats were slit. These infant sons of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj endured all the pain and shaheedi to keep the Panth and the 5K's going, which you all enjoy today. You will clearly see that Mr Dudley has an inherent hate for the Panth and the 5K's (the Amritdhari of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj).

I'm sure that if, Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, and Mrs Indira Gandhi (daughter of Nehru) and descendant of Gangu Ram, were still alive to join with in the oppression and supression the Khalsa Panth which still continues in india todya, then they would all have given Mr Dudley and big hug and kiss, for continuing their work for them!!! I am sure Mr Dudley is made very happy and proud by the thought of Gandhi, Nehru, Indira, and Gangu Ram, all giving him a BIG HUG, for him continuing their work today!!

I dont need any warmth of you guys, nor from Gandi & co....

You lot just cant take anyone challanging your views, if its not your way..its the hight road......

Like i said you lot are welcome to your vistory and this site...

loosers

give it a rest now, stop moaning, you have wasted 20 pages with your crap.

what i want to know is

1. Your gurdwara has been there 30 odd years. Why can you not afford a 30 year old mortgage?

2. The money you made from the Hall so far, where has that gone? why have you not been able to clear off your debts?

3. All other areas with similar size sangat of Dudley are making multi-million pound Gurdwaras, but you are supposedly so broke you have to hire our the hall for sharaab and meat?

You are corrupt lying scumbags.

The Sikhi we support is the Sikhi Where Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaaj called the Golok Chors together and burnt them alive.

If you don't like it, resign and join another faith.

WHY DONT YOU GO AND JOIN ANOTHER FAITH.

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ???

YOU QUESTION MY BELIEFS,

JUST TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF.

Southall is not a good place to live. I know.

Many of the so called Punjabi youth are on drugs and the girls just goto Ealing for a bit of Gora and then hangout with mummy and daddy at HAvelock Road on the Sunday morning. True I'm sure it happens in other regions but not to this scale.

Well said, and very true.

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All this talk about UK law and what is beadbi or not - everyone is forgetting another problem.

How would those apes that ruined the reputation of sikhi feel if someone went into their home, slapped women up, spill daal and smashes the place up?

What im saying is the people who hired the hall for a function - you ruined their party. Whether you agree with whats going on or not you should not have attacked people who just hired a hall to celebrate a family function or whatever. Cowards.

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All this talk about UK law and what is beadbi or not - everyone is forgetting another problem.

How would those apes that ruined the reputation of sikhi feel if someone went into their home, slapped women up, spill daal and smashes the place up?

What im saying is the people who hired the hall for a function - you ruined their party. Whether you agree with whats going on or not you should not have attacked people who just hired a hall to celebrate a family function or whatever. Cowards.

You do not have the basic facts. Firstly no one slapped up any women. Infact on previous meetings with the committee it was the women who hurled abuse and swear words of the disgusting kind at those who had gone to dudley in a peaceful manner.

If the party people are going to open the windows of the hall to drown out the paath that is being recited outside and then came out and goaded and provoked the sangat then what do you expect?

If you are going to wake up the lion then prepared to be bitten my friend.

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How would those apes that ruined the reputation of sikhi feel if someone went into their home, slapped women up, spill daal and smashes the place up?

What im saying is the people who hired the hall for a function - you ruined their party. Whether you agree with whats going on or not you should not have attacked people who just hired a hall to celebrate a family function or whatever. Cowards.

Someones 'home' ?

We're talking about a gurdwara hall for which the gurdwara recieved a massive grant from dudely metropolitan council on the basis that it was a registered charity. It got itself registered as a charity on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWRA !!! Thats money taken from the mouths of hard up hard working citizens of Dudley.

Don't pay no rates.....on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWARA !!!!

Don't pay no business tax......on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWARA !!!!

Don't pay no corporation tax.......on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWARA !!!!

You wanna hold parties there ? Wanna claim that its not affiliated to the Gurdwara ? Well then its simple : Pay back the people of Dudley the massive amount of money claimed in grants, on the basis of being a sikh place of worship. Pay the citizens of Britain back taxes for the last decade. Taxes that were never paid on the basis of being a SIKH PLACE OF WORSHIP, thus a registered charity.

Until the Dudley Punjabis can reach into their pockets and find the several hundred thousands pounds it has stolen from the public purse it is, and will remain, a theiving, lying, scrounging benefit cheat, swindling community of Punjabi. An embarrasment all round. Not only to the Sikhs but to the Punjabis generally who, in the rest of the country have a reputation for honesty, hard work and non-reliance on state handouts. Dudley.....an embarrasment to every Punjabi....to every Sikh.

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£18K LOSSES ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH BEFORE THAT....NO BUSINESS RATES OR TAXATION TO PAY ON TOP FOR 20 YEARS OF WHICH FOR 3 YEARS THE PLACE WAS ACTUALLY A VERY NICE GURDWARA.....AND YET PEOPLE STILL THINK THERE IS NO connection between the 2 buildings...

NO LETTER SIGNED BY THE COMMITTEE TO ACCEPT CONDITIONS AGREED AT MORCHA...

Amritdaries no longer welcome by the dudley sangat

LOOKS LIKE THE DEFIANCE IS STILL STRONG

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Someones 'home' ?

We're talking about a gurdwara hall for which the gurdwara recieved a massive grant from dudely metropolitan council on the basis that it was a registered charity. It got itself registered as a charity on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWRA !!! Thats money taken from the mouths of hard up hard working citizens of Dudley.

Don't pay no rates.....on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWARA !!!!

Don't pay no business tax......on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWARA !!!!

Don't pay no corporation tax.......on the basis of being a SIKH GURDWARA !!!!

You wanna hold parties there ? Wanna claim that its not affiliated to the Gurdwara ? Well then its simple : Pay back the people of Dudley the massive amount of money claimed in grants, on the basis of being a sikh place of worship. Pay the citizens of Britain back taxes for the last decade. Taxes that were never paid on the basis of being a SIKH PLACE OF WORSHIP, thus a registered charity.

Until the Dudley Punjabis can reach into their pockets and find the several hundred thousands pounds it has stolen from the public purse it is, and will remain, a theiving, lying, scrounging benefit cheat, swindling community of Punjabi. An embarrasment all round. Not only to the Sikhs but to the Punjabis generally who, in the rest of the country have a reputation for honesty, hard work and non-reliance on state handouts. Dudley.....an embarrasment to every Punjabi....to every Sikh.

You're either a child or just incredibly stupid DudlySingh so.....just a little bit of info for ya : In London, the 'east' is the cheaper part. 'South' of the river is historicaly cheaper still. The 'west' is the more expensive part. The larger Sikh section is in the 'west'. Of all the Sikhs in 'west' London, Southall only houses a small fraction of them. There are many more in other areas and boroughs in west London. But....even in Southall....with its high rental rates and new high speed link with Paddington, a house will cost at least 2 or 3 times more than Dudley. Myself ?.....I live in Osterley. Throughout London, considered one of the premier residential neighbourhoods and populated largely by Sikhs. The average price of a normal 3 bed semi here is £750,000. These figures are way beyond your level of understanding DudleySingh. Don't go there.

Cleaners at the airport ? Yes. Some of us are cleaners at the airport. Some of us are general managers at the airport. We occupy all levels at the airport. And thus we're back to what I said about how different the tax / rate swindling Punjabis of Dudley are to the rest of the country. We Sikhs are brought up with a fantastic work ethic. We're as honoured and gratefull to clean toilets as we are to being a partner in a city law firm. Hard work is very very important to us as Sikhs. You seem to have a very limited understanding of sikhism dudleysingh. If I met you in different circumstances somewhere else......I think I could instantly tell you were from Dudley. You have dudley written all over you. Good luck with that.

Trust me these number are not beyond me,

your soooo up your own!

how did you fund your place in osterly.... gurdwara funds

Give up ....i dont give a too hoots.

your just a typical joker from london, trust me i meet them every week,

Joker,

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@West London Singh, you put your facts across really well! Thanks for the info.

It's better than the smug one liners Dudley Puts in (it just Dudley's way of getting out of answering the your posts as he has no answers to come back to you with)

By the way I will be ignoring Dudley (I think we all should). You gain nothing from talking with a murakh!

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When these accounts are actually fine combed you will find abuse of Charity status and all sorts of frauds and deceptions.

there is supposedly one whistler blower in the inner committee circles who is preparing to name and shame the deceptions and past dealings.

This is just the start.

These guy better start preparing for the long haul, we need them individually named, shamed handcuffed and made to pay-back every penny from their own pockets.

SCUM

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Some typical apnay here. Trying to big up their status by bragging about their mummy/daddies house. lol!

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hsisingh, and Dal Singh, and West London Singh,

At the risk of me being shot down in flames by all three of you... is there any chance you could add a post to this thread just to confirm that, as far as Sikhi and the Satkaar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj is concerned, you all agree that Dudley is totally wrong in all his points on this thread, and that there is no excuse to consume Alcohol on Gurdwara related Premises?

I am not saying this would make you best friends or anything. However, it would send that Dudley man a very clear message that none of you Sikhs agree with him supporting the disrespecting of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj!

You don't have to make friends. Just put add your posts individually to send a clear message to that Dudley man! Otherwise, he will just get pleasure in knowing that he got 3 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj’s Sikhs to argue with each other! Let’s not give this Dudley man that pleasure!

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I've told Dudley before that what is going on in that centre is plain wrong. Trawl back and see.

That doesn't make it appropriate to start "my dad's house is bigger than yours" bukwaas though.

Anyway. I'm bowing out now before this gets even more farcical.

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So according to you the moderators here are all easily fooled, idiots?

Err...okay. Personally I'd give them a bit more credit than that but each to his own.

PS - Anyone is more than welcome to trawl through my old posts on SPN and try and find stuff they can do nindya with. Hell, I would be surprised if someone hasn't tried already. Knock yourself out with the ad-hominem attacks. Just don't be surprised if I sleep through them though. zzzzz

Dal Singh you were a member on SPN :|...Im shocked...its the home of pakhandi sikh missionary pro darshan lal naastics...i hope your not one of them....OHH NO! PLEASE DONT TELL ME ITS TRUE :O....MY HITLIST IS ALREADY FULL AS IT IS... I DONT NEED YOU ON THERE ASWELL... LOLL....

Everyone please just chill the hell out...i thought we were all striving for ekta....and here we have brothers fighting over some petty bullsh*t

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