Asian Network Nihal - Benti To Satkaar Camapign

[ekam]

This Nihal is a very sly presenter. He'll make out he's impartial but very cleverly lean on the side of anti-Sikhism.

I'm trying to get through to the show, if anybody else gets through - ask him these questions:

1) Would the serving of beef at a Hindu Cultural Centre be accepted?

2) Would the serving of pork at an Islamic Cultural Centre be accepted?

[ekam]

Interesting to see that he has questioned these points just now! Let's see where this heads!

Note: He has actively sought non-Sikhs to call in.

[VanHelsingh]

He's trying to be fair in my opinion. Maybe I'm gullible...:blush2:

[ekam]

Currently, although the balance of callers is in favour of using the SCC for parties - Nihal himself does seem to be maintaining balance currently.

The whole debate is very ill-informed and based around the media inflamation of the protest.

Also amazing how the bibi ji involved in the show cannot even bring herself to admit that meat and alcohol was served on the premisis.

[Jaggaa]

This lady keeps trying to justify how it's not a big deal with meat & alcohol served at the centre and the presenter (Nihal) has shut her up with a couple of questions she can't really answer.

BTW I've not heard the whole show, this is just from when I started listening at around 13:30. Then they started playing this bollywood music track and I've stopped

[VanHelsingh]

The debate begins and ends with one question: Was the sangat's contribution to the golak used to buy the building or fund its construction? If so, then the advocates of serving meat and alcohol in the center haven't got a leg to stand on.

EDIT: The Sikh girl talking at the moment is speaking very well and is being given the opportunity to present the facts.

EDIT: The female spokesperson for the centre is having a laugh. She's actually trying to challenge the Akal Takhat by saying she's living in this country & abides by UK law! :laugh2:

[ekam]

The Dudley Committee supporting Bibi ji has clearly rejected the Hukam of the Akal Takht, Live on air - and her justification is...."... not breaking any UK law.........I'm a modern person".............

[_!_GUPT_!_]

Imandeep Kaur was fantastic! Definitely deserves a lot of credit!!

[VanHelsingh]

Satkaar were conspicuous by their absence. They can't run these national campaigns and then retreat into the shadows when things get a bit hot. I'm not having a go at them. I'm a strong supporter of their efforts but they needed to contribute to the discussion.

EDIT: There's this mistaken belief that Satkaar campaign orchestrated the violence. That's not right.

EDIT: If our male Sikh youngsters can't string a sentence together, don't phone in for God's sake. The lad on now just needs to step away from the phone. He's damaging the good work of the previous two Sikh girls who articulated themselves excellently.

EDIT: Please brother, whoever you are, bas kar. You're being torn apart by the presenter and you're making the protesters look like idiots.

EDIT: Uncle Ji is currently giving us a history lesson on contributions to Gurughars. Nihal keeps asking the question about why people are going against the Akal Takhat, but nobody can answer him.

EDIT: Now Uncle Ji is saying the 2006 sandesh isn't actually from Akal Takhat! You can't make it up!!!

EDIT: Lad on the phone now is criticising Hazoor Sahib regarding jhatka.

EDIT: JASMINDER IS IN THE BUILDING!!!! (metaphorically speaking. He hasn't turned up in Dudley at the cultural centre, lol).

He's now saying Satkaar are right-wing extremists. Saying Guru Gobind Singh Ji use to eat meat.

EDIT: Uncle Ji is saying Akal Takhat should go further and anyone associated with selling alcohol should not be involved in the running of Gurughars, i.e. such people should not be allowed on committees. He says he resigned from his position (not sure where) when Akal Takhat wouldn't go that far.

He also earlier condoned the violence - on both sides - which is fair enough. His final point was that those people arguing for the separation of Sikh as culture and Sikh as a religion are travelling a dangerous path. At the moment they are saying meat and alcohol should be allowed in associated buildings - in the future they could introduce further abberations.

EDIT: Another emailer slandering Satkaar as extremists and bullies. Nihal to his credit is sticking up for Satkaar - kind of.

Lots of clever emailers labelling protesting Sikhs as right-wing and extremists. "Imposing 15th century rules in the present". Probably those who were in the Dudley cultural centre on Saturday.

EDIT: Last email by Ekam??!? Our Ekam? Good lad!

EDIT: Good caller (Charan Singh). Brief call but very good.

EDIT: Another Uncle Ji condemning the violence and questioning Satkaar's activities. Give it up Uncle Ji. Go and have a late-lunchtime pint.

The end of the show. A few emails to finish off - a mixed bag. Satkaar being called a cult. Others defending Akal Takhat sandesh of 2006.

[Jaggaa]

This guy slandering Guru Gobind Singh Jee.. What a joke of a person.