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1984 Sikh Story on Sikh TV (sky Channel 848) tonite 4th june at 9pm until 11pm,

Special Program: A one- off discussion will be aired about 1984 Sikh Story on Sikh TV (sky Channel 848) tonite 4th june at 9pm until 11pm, repeated tomorrow 5th June at 9pm-11pm.The panel is off very committed sevadars who are expert's in their field and born and bred in the UK. Not to be missed

spread the word so sikhs can understand what and why 1984 happened.

The Facts and the lies behind 1947-1984 onwards

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I'm watching the debate of 1984 on Sikh Channel.

I want to ask, how many in Panjab [sikhs] actually want Khalistan, or [names I think should be considered, Nanakstan, Gobindstan, Dasguristan] :s

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Cos we are more pro Sikh than Sikhs in India and know a million times more than they do about 1984

What does Being proSikh have to do with Knowing the truth .

Being More pro sikh will only increase the chances of looking at things with a prejudiced outlook .

If organising pro - Khalistan movements is what you mean by being pro-sikh , then you must know that you are able to do this because the UK Constitution gives you the Freedom To do so . All the martyrs were born and bred in UK. It makes me laugh to see the way you quantify such things . Only a person who is evolved knows that he is not always right .

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*Edited*

I know people like you and I weren't born in India. However, even though you weren't born in the following coutries you must have a belief on the numbers/answers to the following questions based on documentaries, newspaper reports and the History Books. Please could you give a number/answer to any of the following questions. Very Vague Estimates will do. :

  • How many people were killed in the twin tower attacks?
  • How many people were killed by Pol Pot's Forces?
  • How many Jews were killed by Adolph Hilter's Forces?
  • How many people were killed by Joseph Stalin Forces?
  • How many Sikhs were killed by Indira Gandhi's Indian Army and Police?Mao Tse-Tung
  • How many Sikh Women were raped, and gang raped, under the rule of Indira Gandhi's/India's Army and Police?
  • How many Sikh girls were raped, and gang raped, under the rule of Indira Gandhi's/India's Army and Police?
  • How many Sikh Children, Women and Men were tortured and murdered under the rule of Indira Gandhi's/India's Army and Police Force?
  • Regarding Indira Gandhi's/India's Crimes stated above, how many people have been charged for those crimes?

se-Tung

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Banners were quite weak this year ,we need to go more on the lines of those on the 25th anniversary ,and plan well in advance by laying them all out on the grass like we used to.Every Gurdwara has to make sure they all have back up coaches what happened in places like Southall and especially Slough was that people got late or either left behind or arrived half way through - planning needs to be improved - so we can leave on time from Hyde Park!

Recordings of every major speech made at this years rally should be uploaded to youtube so we can continue our campaign ,as of now we either have to use mobile phone footage or old footage of previous rallies - for promos and educational videos.Maybe an official DVD could be released by neverforget84.com of the rally speeches.

Some speakers did go off topic in the Square - ie of the Freedom and Remembrance issue - we should always make sure we relate the Gurbani to the event so its easily understood by newcomers to the rally.

All in all base it more on the 25th anniversary rally black flags coffins and so on,Nishan Sahibs looked brilliant need a sea of them as well next year!

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Some interesting points here.

I somehow disagree that sikhs outside India know more about 1984 than those in India, Its kind of like saying those of British decent living in foreign lands and have never stepped foot in the UK know more about what is happening right here and right now.

Also what do you mean about being pro-sikh? Are you suggesting that if you dont believe in khalistan then you are not pro-sikh?

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one doesnt have to be born in uk or abroad to be a sikh/ khalistani... but its true that people abroad care and know the truth compare to india.. more parchaar is needed there.. but again one cant generalize...

i was born and bred in india knew nothing about ghallughara and sikh genocide.. i came to america lived in a town with very less desis learned about it from jaikara movement pamphlets.

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I strongly agree that nothing will work unless Sikhs in Punjab realize on their own regarding grave injustices done upon them in past... happening in present and may will happen in future... Desi living abroad (like most of us here) can help by taking advantage of freedoms granted by their own countries to educate our brothers and sisters in Punjab.

On no basis anyone can justify that sikhs living abroad are more pro sikhs than in India. Don't forget there are 25+ million sikhs in India but few millions scattered in other countries. Also.. same type of problems exist in other countries just like in india (gurdwara wars/court cases, jatha wars etc..)..

Also.. I deleted few replies.. Please keep this thread clean.. Don't attack other person because of his id name.. Discuss issue on hand wisely and in more mature manner.

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