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Well this is regarding the online social networking sites. I have noticed that within my networks there are young vulnerable Sikh girls who are dating Muslims. these males appear to be a lot older then the girls. One of the girls has already converted to Islam. she is from a broken home where there is no father figure.

The other girls has learning difficulties and is vulnerable. there’s also another girl. Now I 'm thinking about contacting the parents. But is that the right move?

I would like to do something about this to get these girls out of danger. But I'm not sure what I can do. I was thinking of contact the parents but im not sure about that,

We as Sikhs need to address this problem as a community. This problem has not gone away and is getting a lot worse. There is no point trying to brush this under the carpet and pretending it does not exist.

We need to help our fellow Sikhs out there who have gone astray. There is a section of the Sikh community who are vulnerable. Be it for whatever reason. Broken homes, isolated, come from bad backgrounds. We can even term this section as the underground Sikhs. Who are on the outside.

At the end of the day like it or not. Every Sikh out their represents Sikhism. And this also gives us a bad image. we need to do everything in our power to stop this. we can either turn our backs on these people and not give a damn about it. Or try help them.

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There was a programme on Sangat tv about this not long ago and I'm sure contact details of panthic sevadaars were given if anyone wanted to report such activities... Maybe get in touch With the channel to get contact details?

They will atleast be able to give you a lead...good luck with it

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Sometimes the parents turn on the messengers. Frequently they can't imagine that their little princess/prince is anything but an angel. I know some parents have threatened to phone the police on Singhs who've respectfully visited them and told them about their daughters in the past.

So be careful.

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Thanks for all the advice.

Well thats what I was worried in terms of a back lash from the parents who might turn on me. But I was just thinking of poilitley phoning them. And saying something on the lines of. 'This is not good news, and I dont know how to put this. But I thought I should let you know' ect. I dont think I will go down the SAS route. As I think the parents of the girls should be able to handle this.

Well this is what I'm planning to do. And I think we can all do this.

I woulld also like to add that I have worked as a Geniologist for a libiary. So I know how to get the phone numbers of practicaly anyone online. So if anyone has any profiles that concern them of these relationships. you can message me the details/link I will be able to contact the parents of the girls to let them know. Or if needed forward them onto to the SAS if needed.

I think combating these extreemist who pray on girls online is a method we should use to stop these people from getting away with it. If people dont have the contact details then as i have mentioned. forward th link to myself as i have many methods to get contact details of those concerned.

right now i have all 4 contact details of the girls concerened, and will be phoning the parents to let them know of the situation.

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I cant believe my eyes and what i have just read. We as a religion are supposed to be tolerant and forgiving. HELLO, wake up and smell the coffee, we are in the 21st Century now, not in the post Darwinian era of developing our brains and thought patters. I live in a predominantly Muslim and Sikh area and in my 25 years of living here have not heard of a single case of Sikh girls being 'groomed' by Muslims. This is utter madness and insecurity on behalf of those peddling these ideas.

Maybe they are jealous that they cant get a girlfriend, and it hurts even more when they see a Sikh girl with a Muslim guy. Tell me Singh, do you feel the same when you see a Sikh girl with a White or Hindu person. I expect not. this is Islama-phobia which has been going on for centuries and has been passed down from generation to generation. My own parents were very careful in pointing out that what happened between the Sikhs during the Mughal era and the subsequent partition should bear no part in how we view Muslims today. Take each one on a individual basis without prejudging or bias.

I often come onto this site to see what is happening in the world of Sikhism today and on the whole am pleased to see a progressive and intelligent bunch of people, but occasionally i read something like this 'tosh' and it makes me fear that we are still stuck in the dark ages.

There is no 'grooming' of Sikh girls, its just a term that has been carried on from other forms of 'grooming' which i dont want to get into, to justify paranoia and divert our own insecurities and hatred towards someone who is embedded in our psychy as being an enemy and someone we cant trust.

If a Sikh boy or girl wants to have a relationship with a person from another religion, that is their choice. If they feel they want to change their faith, that is also their choice. Trust me, no one can force anyone to change their faith. If their belief in their faith was not strong enough and they feel more comfortable with another faith, that is their choice.

We often hear stories about what terrible things the Muslims did during the partition, delve a little deeper into the archives and take of the blinkers and you will find that we the Sikhs were no shrinking violets during that episode.

I am very disappointed at this thread. Wont be visiting this site again.

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But I was just thinking of poilitley phoning them. And saying something on the lines of. 'This is not good news, and I dont know how to put this. But I thought I should let you know' ect

Human nature is a very funny thing sometimes. We frequently refuse to believe things that counter what we wish to be true. We attack or disbelieve the source that tell us otherwise.

Nothing is more precious to Panjabis/Sikhs than the 'izzat' perceived as contingent on their daughters morality and innocence. When this is questioned, don't be surprised if you get a hostile reaction.

Also I know in previous cases where this has been tried, sometimes the girl denies everything. The parents lock her down for a few weeks/months and once they relax this, she will be back with Abdul. Sometimes, it also blows up in your face, with kurian soon running away from home to be with their romeo.

It's strange how decades pass and we still seem to be dealing with the same issues in the same ways as before (which didn't have much success then). I'm not trying to put you off btw, just making the observation.

Remember, sometimes it's not always extremists, plain randy sods do this too.

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I cant believe my eyes and what i have just read. We as a religion are supposed to be tolerant and forgiving. HELLO, wake up and smell the coffee, we are in the 21st Century now, not in the post Darwinian era of developing our brains and thought patters. I live in a predominantly Muslim and Sikh area and in my 25 years of living here have not heard of a single case of Sikh girls being 'groomed' by Muslims. This is utter madness and insecurity on behalf of those peddling these ideas.

Maybe they are jealous that they cant get a girlfriend, and it hurts even more when they see a Sikh girl with a Muslim guy. Tell me Singh, do you feel the same when you see a Sikh girl with a White or Hindu person. I expect not. this is Islama-phobia which has been going on for centuries and has been passed down from generation to generation. My own parents were very careful in pointing out that what happened between the Sikhs during the Mughal era and the subsequent partition should bear no part in how we view Muslims today. Take each one on a individual basis without prejudging or bias.

I often come onto this site to see what is happening in the world of Sikhism today and on the whole am pleased to see a progressive and intelligent bunch of people, but occasionally i read something like this 'tosh' and it makes me fear that we are still stuck in the dark ages.

There is no 'grooming' of Sikh girls, its just a term that has been carried on from other forms of 'grooming' which i dont want to get into, to justify paranoia and divert our own insecurities and hatred towards someone who is embedded in our psychy as being an enemy and someone we cant trust.

If a Sikh boy or girl wants to have a relationship with a person from another religion, that is their choice. If they feel they want to change their faith, that is also their choice. Trust me, no one can force anyone to change their faith. If their belief in their faith was not strong enough and they feel more comfortable with another faith, that is their choice.

We often hear stories about what terrible things the Muslims did during the partition, delve a little deeper into the archives and take of the blinkers and you will find that we the Sikhs were no shrinking violets during that episode.

I am very disappointed at this thread. Wont be visiting this site again.

your the most deluded person i've come across in my entire life, check out the following video by SAS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Z-dQFqtWA&feature=related

Plus you need to get out more if you think grooming doesn't exist, fool!

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