Christians In Punjab

[N30S1NGH]

I think its something to do with demographics and mentality itself. India itself is caste eccentric country, amount of crap people deal with on daily basis- social divide, social status, corruption, outlaw mobs, cunning politicians and their gullible janta..its unbelievable !!!!

[RebelSingh]

Not entirely true. Blaming one or two group is knee j erk reaction..The problem is much deeper than that, as root the problem lies at punjabi tribalism. All samparda's and groups historically are affected by it- nihangs (seperate amrit for mabhzi sikhs), nirmale, udhasi, singh sabha (gurdwaras), bhindran taksal (seperate area for mabhzi sikhs), akj (all though they don't show it openly).

Once sikh (regardless whichever jatha or samparda he/she from) mindset rises from punjabi tribalism..one will start seeing beauty of sikhi. Punjabiyaat tribalism have hijacked Gurmat by super imposing its own tribal thought on Gurmat.

bro duz the budda dal have seperations? also u say its a panjabi tribalism, well duz the bihari and hazoor sahib takhts have this aswel, coz of course they aint panjabi, cheers

[Sherdil]

Idk if we can even call today's Christianity the same as the Christianity of Jesus Christ. The bible was written hundreds of years after Jesus's death. It's incorporated a lot a of Pagan stuff as it spread through Europe. Christmas is celebrated on December 25th. That's the same day the pagans celebrated the winter solstice. They used to cut down a tree and involve it in their celebrations too. Hel was a Nordic God of the underworld. There's more stuff that I can't remember off the top of my head.

[Sherdil]

Today's christians have fallen far from the tree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6e4MWpTIQ

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Idk if we can even call today's Christianity the same as the Christianity of Jesus Christ. The bible was written hundreds of years after Jesus's death. It's incorporated a lot a of Pagan stuff as it spread through Europe. Christmas is celebrated on December 25th. That's the same day the pagans celebrated the winter solstice. They used to cut down a tree and involve it in their celebrations too. Hel was a Nordic God of the underworld. There's more stuff that I can't remember off the top of my head.

the original christianity of jesus was lost long ago...anyone who studied early christian schools of thought would know they had so many different sects....and from the council of nicene..only one made it through...its interesting to note groups like the gnostic christians accepted transmigration of the soul, and accepted jesus as a master/guru rather than god in flesh

[VanHelsingh]

Today's christians have fallen far from the tree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6e4MWpTIQ

This American brand of Christian evangelism is scary.

[RebelSingh]

Idk if we can even call today's Christianity the same as the Christianity of Jesus Christ. The bible was written hundreds of years after Jesus's death. It's incorporated a lot a of Pagan stuff as it spread through Europe. Christmas is celebrated on December 25th. That's the same day the pagans celebrated the winter solstice. They used to cut down a tree and involve it in their celebrations too. Hel was a Nordic God of the underworld. There's more stuff that I can't remember off the top of my head.

the original christianity of jesus was lost long ago...anyone who studied early christian schools of thought would know they had so many different sects....and from the council of nicene..only one made it through...its interesting to note groups like the gnostic christians accepted transmigration of the soul, and accepted jesus as a master/guru rather than god in flesh

also guys regardin christmas bein celebrated on the 25th, did u guys know, thast not even jesus' brithday, but the day apparntly 3 wise men (zoroastrians incidently) went 2 visit him with gifts, thus presents r given nowadays. Also jesus' janamdin was actualy in the summer, yet even vicars will tell christmas was the birth of christ. its pathetic how their own heirachy of preachers n especially their follwers dontkno this fact. Also wen jesus (eesa) was made shaheed on the cross, his followers were asked by the romans, "is this geezer ur guru/leader", n they said "NO, we dont kno this guy or follow him", out of fear of bein killed by the romans, which i find shockin. In complete contrast, Guru Tegh Bahadur was shaheed by givin his sees/head for another dharam, n wen asked by the mughals wats ur last wish 2 bhai mati dass, mati dass replied "When I am being cut with the saw, let my face be towards my mentor so that I may behold my Guru till my last breath and he may keep on seeing me so that he may be convinced how happily I reach my last destination"!! please tell wat isai (christian) wud have a comeback 2 that? one prophets' followers skanked him, n the others were sawn in half whilst wantin 2 b facin their prophet ru-ba-ru (face2face). Im so proud our dad!!

[Sherdil]

the original christianity of jesus was lost long ago...anyone who studied early christian schools of thought would know they had so many different sects....and from the council of nicene..only one made it through...its interesting to note groups like the gnostic christians accepted transmigration of the soul, and accepted jesus as a master/guru rather than god in flesh

I didn't know about that.

Isn't it also true that the priests who put together the bible threw away a lot of scriptures that they felt didn't mesh with their version of Christianity?

[Sherdil]

This American brand of Christian evangelism is scary.

Ha! You Brits are so lucky you don't have to share a country with these people. Unfortunately, I think most of the missionaries in Punjab are cut from this very cloth.

They think Jesus won't come back unless the whole world embraces Christianity and the Jews are in Israel. This is part of the reason why America backs Israel.

[Sherdil]

also guys regardin christmas bein celebrated on the 25th, did u guys know, thast not even jesus' brithday, but the day apparntly 3 wise men (zoroastrians incidently) went 2 visit him with gifts, thus presents r given nowadays. Also jesus' janamdin was actualy in the summer, yet even vicars will tell christmas was the birth of christ. its pathetic how their own heirachy of preachers n especially their follwers dontkno this fact. Also wen jesus (eesa) was made shaheed on the cross, his followers were asked by the romans, "is this geezer ur guru/leader", n they said "NO, we dont kno this guy or follow him", out of fear of bein killed by the romans, which i find shockin. In complete contrast, Guru Tegh Bahadur was shaheed by givin his sees/head for another dharam, n wen asked by the mughals wats ur last wish 2 bhai mati dass, mati dass replied "When I am being cut with the saw, let my face be towards my mentor so that I may behold my Guru till my last breath and he may keep on seeing me so that he may be convinced how happily I reach my last destination"!! please tell wat isai (christian) wud have a comeback 2 that? one prophets' followers skanked him, n the others were sawn in half whilst wantin 2 b facin their prophet ru-ba-ru (face2face). Im so proud our dad!!

If someone understands Sikhi, they could blow these missionaries away. Dharmic religions are light years ahead of Abrahamic faiths.