Baba Deep Singh Ji ( Sees On Hand )

[SarabjeetS]

my faith is strong enough but I care about my sikh parivar. I cant just stay silent when someone keeps saying stuff with strong intention of creating confusion and not believing that Guru Sahib is Samrath.

Just because you believe that Guru sahib is samrath , not all people , esp non-sikhs will believe that guru sahib is samrath ... why it is bothering you so much lefts unanswered !

[Only five]

Just because you believe that Guru sahib is samrath , not all people , esp non-sikhs will believe that guru sahib is samrath ... why it is bothering you so much lefts unanswered !

I thinking understanding and believing that Baba Deep SIngh ji's head was cut and he continued to breath is very important to a Sikh. The Gurus when far and wide to teach about Sikhi and Sri Waheguru ji Maharaj sent Satguru down to uplift the narrow minded thinking. It is a genuine concern for a Sikh to worry about wrong teachinges being taught to Sikhs and nonsikhs. And Satguru IS Samrath. Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj didn't teach on beliefs and said maybe or maybe not something can be true. Satguru taught in complete certainty and left a perfect recipe to be Akal, without fear, without hatred, perfect in everyway. Baba Deep Singh ji acheived this state and he was a living example of it.

Missionaries deny this happened because they don't believe in their being a soul in each person. They believe that the breath is what that keeps a person alive and if this is taken then the person is dead. If you present the tuk that Mehtab Singh presented, then these type of people will twist the tuk and say that the tuk is saying the Lord can do anything and there is nothing else to it. This type of twisted thinking does need to be questioned and then answered.

[GPS]

In Krishna avtar of Dasam Granth sahib, Guru sahib has created a character named Kharag singh who fights and defeats

combined army of Krishna and Muslims.

After a long battle Krisna is unable to match match bravery of kharag singh.He takes off head of kharag singh by deception.

Kharag singh continues his fight without head. That was a prediction of Guru sahib and Baba Deep singh proved that prediction.

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ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

SWAYYA

ਜਦਿਪਿ ਸੀਸ ਕਟਯੋ ਨ ਹਟਯੋ ਗਹਿ ਕੇਸਨਿ ਤੇ ਹਰਿ ਓਰ ਚਲਾਯੋ ॥ ਮਾਨਹੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਚਲਯੋ ਦਿਵ ਆਨਨ ਕਾਜ ਬਿਦਾ ਬ੍ਰਿਜਰਾਜ ਪੈ ਆਯੋ ॥

जदिपि सीस कटयो न हटयो गहि केसनि ते हरि ओर चलायो ॥ मानहु प्रान चलयो दिव आनन काज बिदा ब्रिजराज पै आयो ॥

Though the head of the king was cut, but still he remained stable and catching his head from his hair, he threw it towards Krishna; it seemed as if his pranas (vital force) had reached Krishna in order to bid farewell to him;

ਸੋ ਸਿਰ ਲਾਗ ਗਯੋ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਉਰ ਮੂਰਛ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਪਗੁ ਨਾ ਠਹਰਾਯੋ ॥ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਪਉਰਖ ਭੂਪ ਕੇ ਮੁੰਡ ਕੋ ਸਯੰਦਨ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭੂਮ ਗਿਰਾਯੋ ॥੧੭੦੧॥

सो सिर लाग गयो हरि के उर मूरछ ह्वै पगु ना ठहरायो ॥ देखहु पउरख भूप के मुंड को सयंदन ते प्रभ भूम गिरायो ॥१७०१॥

That head hit Krishna and he could not keep standing; he fell down unconscious; see the bravery of the head of the king; on being hit by it, the Lord (Krishna) fell down from his chariot on the earth.1701.

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

SWAYYA

ਭੂਪਤਿ ਜੈਸੋ ਸੁ ਪੌਰਖ ਕੀਨੋ ਹੈ ਤੈਸੀ ਕਰੀ ਨ ਕਿਸੀ ਕਰਨੀ ॥ ਲਖਿ ਜੱਛਨਿ ਕਿੰਨ੍ਰਨੀ ਰੀਝ ਰਹੀ ਨਭਿ ਮੈ ਸਭ ਦੇਵਨ ਕੀ ਘਰਨੀ ॥

भूपति जैसो सु पौरख कीनो है तैसी करी न किसी करनी ॥ लखि ज्छनि किंन्रनी रीझ रही नभि मै सभ देवन की घरनी ॥

The king Kharag Singh exhibited extraordinary bravery, seeing which the women of Yakshas, Kinnars and gods are allured;

ਮ੍ਰਿਦ ਬਾਜਤ ਬੀਨ ਮ੍ਰਿਦੰਗ ਉਪੰਗ ਮੁਚੰਗ ਲੀਏ ਉਤਰੀ ਧਰਨੀ ॥ ਸਭ ਨਾਚਤ ਗਾਵਤ ਰੀਝ ਰੀਝਾਵਤ ਯੌ ਉਪਮਾ ਕਬਿ ਨੇ ਬਰਨੀ ॥੧੭੦੨॥

म्रिद बाजत बीन म्रिदंग उपंग मुचंग लीए उतरी धरनी ॥ सभ नाचत गावत रीझ रीझावत यौ उपमा कबि ने बरनी ॥१७०२॥

They descended on the earth playing on their musical instruments like lyres, drums etc., and all are showing their pleasure by dancing and singing and making others pleased.1702.

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

DOHRA

ਨਭ ਤੇ ਉਤਰੀ ਸੁੰਦਰੀ ਸਕਲ ਲੀਏ ਸੁਰ ਸਾਜ ॥ ਕਵਨ ਹੇਤ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਕਹਿ ਭੂਪਤ ਬਰਬੇ ਕਾਜ ॥੧੭੦੩॥

नभ ते उतरी सुंदरी सकल लीए सुर साज ॥ कवन हेत कबि सयाम कहि भूपत बरबे काज ॥१७०३॥

The beautiful damsels came down from the sky aft3er embellishing themselves and the poet says that the objects of their coming was to wed the king.1703.

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

SWAYYA

ਮੁੰਡ ਬਿਨਾ ਤਬ ਰੁੰਡ ਸੁ ਭੂਪਤਿ ਕੋ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਅਤਿ ਕੋਪ ਬਢਾਯੋ ॥ ਦ੍ਵਾਦਸ ਭਾਨ ਜੁ ਠਾਢੇ ਹੁਤੇ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਕਹੈ ਤਿਹ ਊਪਰ ਧਾਯੋ ॥

मुंड बिना तब रुंड सु भूपति को चित मै अति कोप बढायो ॥ द्वादस भान जु ठाढे हुते कबि सयाम कहै तिह ऊपर धायो ॥

The headless king was extremely enraged in his mind and advanced towards the twelve Suryas;

ਭਾਜ ਗਏ ਕਰ ਤ੍ਰਾਸ ਸੋਊ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਠਾਢੋ ਰਹਯੋ ਤਿਹ ਊਪਰਿ ਆਯੋ ॥ ਸੋ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਬੀਰ ਮਹਾ ਰਨਧੀਰ ਚਟਾਕ ਚਪੇਟ ਦੈ ਭੂਮ ਗਿਰਾਯੋ ॥੧੭੦੪॥

भाज गए कर त्रास सोऊ शिव ठाढो रहयो तिह ऊपरि आयो ॥ सो न्रिप बीर महा रनधीर चटाक चपेट दै भूम गिरायो ॥१७०४॥

They all ran away from that place, but Shiva kept standing there and fell upon him; but that mightly one caused Shiva to fall on the ground with his blow.1704.

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

SWAYYA

ਏਕਨ ਮਾਰ ਚਪੇਟਨ ਸਿਉ ਅਰੁ ਏਕਨ ਕੋ ਧਮਕਾਰ ਗਿਰਾਵੈ ॥ ਚੀਰ ਕੈ ਏਕਨਿ ਡਾਰ ਦਏ ਗਹਿ ਏਕਨ ਕੋ ਨਭਿ ਓਰ ਚਲਾਵੈ ॥

एकन मार चपेटन सिउ अरु एकन को धमकार गिरावै ॥ चीर कै एकनि डार दए गहि एकन को नभि ओर चलावै ॥

Someone fell with his blow and someone with the thumping of that blow; he ripped and threw someone towards the sky;

ਬਾਜ ਸਿਉ ਬਾਜਨ ਲੈ ਰਥ ਸਿਉ ਰਥ ਅਉ ਗਜ ਸਿਉ ਗਜਰਾਜ ਬਜਾਵੈ ॥ਸਯਾਮ ਭਨੈ ਰਨ ਯਾ ਬਿਧਿ ਭੂਪਤਿ ਸ਼ੱਤ੍ਰਨਿ ਕੋ ਜਮ ਧਾਮ ਪਠਾਵੈ ॥੧੭੦੫॥

बाज सिउ बाजन लै रथ सिउ रथ अउ गज सिउ गजराज बजावै ॥सयाम भनै रन या बिधि भूपति श्त्रनि को जम धाम पठावै ॥१७०५॥

He caused the horses to collide with horses, the chariots to collide with chariots and the elephants to collide with the elephants; in this way, according to the poet, he began to dispatch the enemy to the abode of Yama.1705.

Krishna avtar,dasam granth sahib

[AnakinSkywalker]

Dasam Granth - Bachittar Natak

ਤਿਲਕ ਜੰਵੂ ਰਾਖਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤਾ ਕਾ ॥ ਕੀਨੋ ਬਡੋ ਕਲੂ ਮਹਿ ਸਾਕਾ ॥

He protected the forehead mark and sacred thread (of the Hindus) which marked a great event in the Iron age.

ਸਾਧਨ ਹੇਤਿ ਇਤੀ ਜਿਨਿ ਕਰੀ ॥ ਸੀਸੁ ਦੀਆ ਪਰ ਸੀ ਨ ਉਚਰੀ ॥੧੩॥

For the sake of saints, he laid down his head without even a sign.13.

ਧਰਮ ਹੇਤਿ ਸਾਕਾ ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਆ ॥ ਸੀਸੁ ਦੀਆ ਪਰ ਸਿਰਰੁ ਨ ਦੀਆ ॥

For the sake of Dharma, he sacrificed himself. He laid down his head but not his creed.

ਨਾਟਕ ਚੇਟਕ ਕੀਏ ਕੁਕਾਜਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਲੋਗਨ ਕਹ ਆਵਤ ਲਾਜਾ ॥੧੪॥

The saints of the Lord abhor the performance of miracles and malpractices. 14.

[GPS]

Baba Deep Singh ji did not perform any miracle. He kept his vow and then attained martyrdom.

[sunny_love_kirtan]

thank u GPS for putting so much light. makes perfect sense

[Only five]

What miracle did Baba Deep Singh ji perform? He did ardas and Satguru fullfilled his ardas. People do ardas everyday asking for new cars, a son, more to eat, a wealthy life, to get an A on a science exam and Satguru fillfulls these wants and needs. But when it comes to a Gurmukh and his ardas, then people want to jump on him and speak against it. Satguru blesses a child to a woman that couldn't have one. Sri Waheguru ji Maharaj gives to those that ask for worldly things, so how can't he give the gift of being immortal to a Singh that became his true servant? Not only did Baba Deep Singh ji serve humanity, but he served it, in Akal Purakhs name. Did Baba Deep Singh ji carry his head on hand through any of the five vices? Miracles are performed when a person does something from the five vices.

[AnakinSkywalker]

Oh it makes perfect sense now....the ardas didn't protect him from getting his head decapitated in the first place, but allowed him to carry his head on his hand afterwards. Yep, it makes sense now, thanks GPS for clearing that up.

According to wikipeadia a miracle is defined as:

A miracle is an event attributed to divine intervention. Sometimes an event is also attributed (in part) to a miracle worker, saint, or religious leader. A miracle is sometimes thought of as a perceptible interruption of the laws of nature.

[VanHelsingh]

It is difficult to believe if looking at the situation from a wholly logical and scientific viewpoint.

BUT it boils down to that fact that if you believe in Waheguru and his grace, then Baba Deep Singh Ji's feat was par for the course for a Gursikh such as him. I don't see why anyone would manufacture this "legend" in order to mislead people if that's what the doubters are trying to imply. The fact that these kind of events don't happen these days (or out in the open for all to see like the old times) is probably because many of us simply don't have that shardaa and utter belief in God.

But like I said, I do understand why the cynics are asking these questions and I guess they have a right to air their opinions. It gives us something to discuss! :smile2:

[Jaggaa]

Have people changed Kaljugi? Were people that have come before us "better" people? I think what I've just written probably belongs in another topic.