Cross Roads Gurdwara Coventry . Akj, Babbar Or Tarmala ?

[ks55]

how about the 30 acres of land - tarmalla owns in india??

how about the akal takht statement made against him in around bhai ranjit singh jathedars time?

[Hau Apraadhi]

the certificate itself only states that the Gurmukh practiced Nam Drir, Gurmantar Drir, and Sach Drir for a year.

Getting a certificate saying that a person has been practising those specific things is just a potentially massive ego booster, explain where on earth is the Gurmath in that?

[simran21]

waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

The 30 acres of land you are talking isn't 30 acres and isn't owned by Bhai Sahib, it is owned by the Sarb Sukh Charitable Trust which has members across the US, Canada, England, and Punjab.

There was no Akal Takht Statement during Jathedar Ranjit Singh's time, there was however at the behest of a anti Naam Simran group during Jathedar Vedanti's time, but the Akal Takht later retracted that when Bhai Sahib went there to explain how Naam Simran is done with techniques in Gurbani. Since then Bhai Sahib has done Katha a number of times at the Akal Takht. Every year they go with the graduating batch to Harmandar Sahib and Akal Takht and seek Guru Sahib's blessings before the graduates go on to do Parchaar in the outside world.

how about the 30 acres of land - tarmalla owns in india??

how about the akal takht statement made against him in around bhai ranjit singh jathedars time?

waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

Hau Apraadhi Ji, the certificate isn't a ego booster it is meant as designation that a student has graduated from the University and are trained Parchaaraks. This is similar to what alot of Gurmat Schools do, an example is the Missionary Colleges as they also give certificates upon course completion to the Parchaaraks. This way no Katha Vaachak can claim to have graduated from the University without a certificate.

Getting a certificate saying that a person has been practising those specific things is just a potentially massive ego booster, explain where on earth is the Gurmath in that?

[ks55]

1. trained parcharaks -- where are they at the moment - where are they serving - in the outside world -- ??

2. How can he claim to open das m duaar of people without the need or any talk of controlling the other open 9 duars of an individual??

[Sikhistan]

Tarmala head was once in AKJ just like normal member in his early years. Later on he left jatha. Most people says that he got kicked out because of some reasons but not sure which one. Anyway, this group is dodgy after i had conversation with one of main organisers in my area:

1. They only concentrate on Simran.

2. They actually do nitnem but do not believe in it as they say simran is more important than nitnem/kirtan.

3. They scare new people by drawing pictures of people getting killed after life - Hell concept.

4. Their rumor pr are the best. Ex: This little girl seen heaven & so on.

5. Their katha is totally based on their own concepts.

6. Most of their saamagams are only on their own version katha and simran. Amateur Kids do kirtan just for 15 mins.

7. They reject Dasam Granth completely - heard in their katha once few years ago.

In India they are known as Tarmala group (Tarmaley). In the west they are well known as Dasam Duar Group (Dasam Duaraey). However most of them are very nice people with good heart and hard workers but like bholay bhalay jatts, they are extremely naive and are stuck in the web of tarmala lies & deceit.

[SevaSingh360]

Don't worry its on SikhiTube.Com, on the "Stop Beadbi" Channel, it won't get taken off.

http://www.sikhitube...e-Tarmala-Group

save that vid as it will be removed like last time

[Cisco_Singh]

That video is just embarrasing. I have never heard of any concept that says people should skake their heads around and move left and right etc..when doing Naam Simram. The people in the video make it look like a scene from a mental hospital with their actions, some people lying on the floor kicking his legs around, other peoples dastaars coming off and wildly shaking their hair around. etc..

Surely Naam Simaram requires conentration, stillness of the mind focus of mental energy. Not acting like a mental patient or a drug addict....

[SevaSingh360]

The leader of the Tarmala Group must have a big Ego, the true course is this life given to us by Vahiguroo, Only Vahiguroo can open peoples Dasam Duar.

[ks55]

the question still beggars beileif that why in the hell our committee in teh UK are hosting this guy including the akj affiliated Gurdwara at cross roads coventry??

have we totally lost it??

thanks for somem panthic veers actually put up videos on this fraudster

[Mandela]

the question still beggars beileif that why in the hell our committee in teh UK are hosting this guy including the akj affiliated Gurdwara at cross roads coventry??

have we totally lost it??

thanks for somem panthic veers actually put up videos on this fraudster

Mandela says blame the committee.