Paneer Monster 237 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 something ive always wondered... ive read many times that sache patshah sahib sri guru gobind singh ji maharaj proclaimed that a gurughar must not be built where he would end his pyysical time on this earth.... on this basis why was sachkhand sahib built here? I also read Maharaj said who ever builds a gurughar there, their family linage will die out... and raja ranjit singh instructed the gurughar to be built so on this basis , all his family lineage perished. please do not respond to this using any reference from niddarz book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VanHelsingh 1,991 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I guess Maharaja Ranjit Singh felt his devotion for Guru Sahib was worth the potential "curse" that may befall his clan. That, or he didn't really believe Guru Sahib's words would come true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paneer Monster 237 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 if satguru sahib didnt want a gurughar at this place, how did it become a thakat sahib? dont get me wrong... i have the nuff respect for baba hazoori singh ji baba kulwant singh ji and all hazoori singhs and the maryada of sachkhand sri hazoor sahib. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Khalasthan86 138 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I can recall talking to guy in Panjab, he was saying basically, there was a room already built there, but the Singhs CONVERTED the already built to a gurughar? :s :stupidme: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singh559 2,670 Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I have no idea, this is an interesting question and where did you hear this from? I would love to hear more about this. It might have something to do with the dograys. A lot of bad stuff went on during Maharaja Ranjit Singh's time because of the dogray. They turned Maharaja Ranjit Singh against his own family and Sikhs who had nothing but the Khalsa at heart. :s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kam200 1 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 if satguru sahib didnt want a gurughar at this place, how did it become a thakat sahib? dont get me wrong... i have the nuff respect for baba hazoori singh ji baba kulwant singh ji and all hazoori singhs and the maryada of sachkhand sri hazoor sahib. I don't think any of us here have the answer. Suggestion to you is why don't you ask Baba Kulwant Singh Ji? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Southall Youth 1 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Its not even a Gurdwara in the real sense its a Hinduized version not mention the animal slaughter & that room in which only certain people are allowed in - magical things happen they say.I have no idea who declared it a takht - this needs to be relooked at 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Kaljug Singh 47 Posted August 14, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Its not even a Gurdwara in the real sense its a Hinduized version not mention the animal slaughter & that room in which only certain people are allowed in - magical things happen they say.I have no idea who declared it a takht - this needs to be relooked at Yep, let's destroy one of our own Takhts because some kid from Southall who is ignorant of hundred of years of Sikh history says so. Please feel free to go down to Hazur Sahib and tell the sangat there that you are there to close down the Takht and let's see what happens. I'll give you a clue: not one Mahapurush who has gone there has spoken against the maryada that is kept at Takht Hazur Sahib, a maryada that has been in place since the time of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. K. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post jassa 162 Posted August 14, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Nander the city where takth hazzor sahib is standing tall is the only city in this whole world where 100 % sikh population is kessa dhari sabat surat. Wonder how come hindufied version of sikhi is keeping sikhs kesadhari without even trying and true sikhi is struggling. Partkh nu koi parman di load nahi hundi. Dhan Dhan Sachkhand Sri Hazzor Sahib. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cisco_Singh 568 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hazur Sahib Maryada is the puratuan traditional maryada kept intact since the time of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. It's a very good thing Hazur Sahib remains outside punjab and the corrupt influences of the SGPC. These modern day no-gooders with a lack of undertanding about Sikh history following a SPGC British inspired version of Sikhi specifically designed to de-militarise and weaken the soldier spirtit of the Sikhs are the only ones making all the noise and allegations about Hazur Sahib. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SantLUCIFER 29 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 I do wish people who begin a thread would post the links to the reputable sources they've obtained their information from. Where did Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji say that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paneer Monster 237 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 I do wish people who begin a thread would post the links to the reputable sources they've obtained their information from. Where did Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji say that? Unfortionatly Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Masharaj did not publish this information on any website therefre i can not provide you with any links. However, there is a strong oral tradition that Guru Sahib said this. Again, unfortionatly for you i can not recall all the sikhi materials i have read however some sangat on this board should be able to expland further. I do not have much info... a thought came to mind which is why i created this thread. Ive heard other things too like some sevadars at sachkhand sri hazoor sahib take an oath to remain unmarried out of respect for guru sahibs hukam that no persons family lineage will survive. theres other things aswell but i dont want to post them without any sources... also sangat will get annoyed. generally, i think tis widely accepted that guru sahib said this.... but i cant provide sources or anything. anyways if any one knows how and why sachkhand sahib became a thakat please share. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avtar95 15 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Its not even a Gurdwara in the real sense its a Hinduized version not mention the animal slaughter & that room in which only certain people are allowed in - magical things happen they say.I have no idea who declared it a takht - this needs to be relooked at Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh That certain room in which people are allowed is only for mahapuraks and people who do the shastaer sewa.Sant Baba Joginder Singh Ji Moni did 40 years non-stop sewa of the shaster this is everyday. The magical things that happen in the room are things that we can't explain and only certain people know. The room is where the shastar are and things beyond natural and scientific perspective can explain. Soory for the grammer,spelling and the tone Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singh559 2,670 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 There are hindu aspects going on AROUND Nanded /Sachkhand Takht Sri Hazoor Sahib. Some Gurudwaras are being taken over by Hindus and "Sikhs" alike. They display fake babay pictures next to Guru Sahib Ji and do various hindu poojas there. There are some fake stories made up there as well, but not all of them are fake. A few RSS agents or sanatan mat people go and confuse sangat. In order to see the truth you have to be well informed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avtar95 15 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Unfortionatly Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Masharaj did not publish this information on any website therefre i can not provide you with any links. However, there is a strong oral tradition that Guru Sahib said this. Again, unfortionatly for you i can not recall all the sikhi materials i have read however some sangat on this board should be able to expland further. I do not have much info... a thought came to mind which is why i created this thread. Ive heard other things too like some sevadars at sachkhand sri hazoor sahib take an oath to remain unmarried out of respect for guru sahibs hukam that no persons family lineage will survive. theres other things aswell but i dont want to post them without any sources... also sangat will get annoyed. generally, i think tis widely accepted that guru sahib said this.... but i cant provide sources or anything. anyways if any one knows how and why sachkhand sahib became a thakat please share. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh The people who do the shastar sewa can't leave the city, can't take any madicine and also they can't get married. The people who do the shaster sewa can't do it if they are in ill health. I don't have a link but there is a book about the Hazur Sahib Maryada. Also the people who do it do it non-stop and they cant miss a day. They go there late at night and finish early in the morning and don't have that much time for sleep. Sant Baba Joginder Singh Ji Moni did this sewa meaning the person in the room for 40 years non stop and from that you can stay he had kirpa from maharaj. It is a hard life and the people who are Gursikhs can only do it. I don't know why but from the jeevans you can read about other sants those sants who went to hazoor sahib always had darshan of the Gurus. Hope this helped but i will try to find other books. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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