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Osingh ji

You have asked me few questions and i have answered those. Sant samaj is a combination having some genuine sants and preachers of sikhism.Examples are baba Sewa singh of Rampur khera, Hari singh Randhawewale etc. I respect them for their contribution towards furthering

sikhi.

Their oresence in SGPC is definitely keep enemies of sikhi at bay.

What is your opinion on Sarna, missionaries who are opponents of sant samaj.

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Sikh Council has not been set up by Sikh Federation. It was set up by Gurmel Singh who is independent of any jathebandi. It is a national body composed of all major UK jathebandian including Akj, federation, Taksal, ramgharia community, ravidassia community, bhatra community and many others. It is incorrect to state that it was set up by the Sikh Federation. For a start many other Sikh jathebandian would not have joined it if it was started by the Federation.

It was set up jointly by Sikh organisations and Gurdwaras. Gurmel Singh was one of 4 or 5 that drew up the constitution.

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Jagat singh, remember Sikh Council was an idea thought by Sikh Channel, you should not be supporting it, just like you are not supporting d-day, another idea set up by Sikh Channel, and tell Amrik Singh Gill president of SFUK to give that award back, he got from Sikh channel (peoples award) shame on him to receive it and then backstabbing Sikh Channel like that.

Sorry I meant Jagtar Singh not Jagat Singh

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Have a look at this topic linked to this thread as well - http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/63375-majority-of-uk-sikhs-upset-with-yesterdays-live-show-on-sikh-channel-and-dadu-sahib-wale-for-speaking-against-panthic-leaders-and-jathebandia/page__pid__513404#entry513404

PLEASE KEEP THIS TOPIC HERE SO ALL CAN SHOW THEIR SUPPORT TO THE PANTHIC LEADERS & JATHEBANDIA WHO HAVE DONE SO MUCH WORK OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS+

Most people in the UK will have watched tonights live discussion show on Sangat TV in which many Panthic leaders who have done sewa for the last 25 years+ came on live TV (along with many phone calls) to show how hurt and upset they were with the discussion show that happened yesterday on Sikh Channel - absolutely disgusting.

In that show, members of the newly formed International Panthic Dal, some gurdwara committee members (Guru Arjan Dev Gurdwara Derby and stage secretary of Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara Leicester - not committee), old ex members of jathebandia (eg Raghbir Singh) and Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Wala (who has flown in to the UK from India especially to support Sikh Channel and attend Dastar Day) etc were all sitting there for two hours, basically putting down the drain 25 years worth of work of respected panthic leaders and jathebandia.

This was not a normal discussion show, this was beyond civilised and respectful discussion where phone calls were set-up and every person was pretty much speaking against panthic sikhs as if they are enemies. The likes of Sikh Federation, Sikh Council, Babbar Khalsa Singhs, AKJ leaders, Bhai Joga Singh, Bhai Kuldip Singh Chaheru (brother of Shaheed Bhai Manvir Singh Chaheru), Bhai Amrik Singh Gill, Bhai Avtar Singh Sanghera, Jathedar Bhai Balbir Singh Babbar, FSO, GNNSJ and Bhai Sahib, Bhai Dabinderjit Singh, Dr Inderjit Singh, pretty much every single panthic Sikh and leader out there was called a traitor....

Okay, I don't agree with some of these people, but there is no doubt they have done good work for the Panth over the years in their own capacity. The Sikh Channel presenter (forgot his name?) basically sat there laughing and waiting for the panel and audience to speak more negativity and nonsense. They said that whoever does not support the Sikh Channel Dastar Day is not a Sikh at all. They said these Sikh organisations are asking for 3 years of accounts for Sikh Channel, but they ask them for 25 years worth of accounts from the jathebandia who have taken all the money (even the good ones!!!). This is what was said on a Sikh television channel and live to the world as well. Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Wala sat there listening and supporting them all. In the end he even said what everyone said was really good?????? Most of the things said cannot be repeated but the discussion show was disgraceful.

A recorded broadcast was shown from India of Baba Harnam Singh Dhumma of Damdami Taksal who has supported Dastar Day, along with the traitor Jasbir Rode who has recently gone public and now openly supporting Akali Dal of traitor Badal. These recordings were brought by Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Sahib Wala from India (as he is close to both of them).

Apparently an email sent from Mr Bal of Sikh Channel to Sikh leaders about Dastar Day was read out on Panjab Radio two days ago and Bal had said that no "anti-Indian element" or any talk of "Sikh Sovereignty" (ie Khalistan) would be allowed at Dastar Day (D-Day). What is this saying???

On todays Sangat TV discussion show the Sikh leaders cleared their points. Many phone calls sympathised with Sangat TV and the jathebandia about what was said at yesterdays discussion show on Sikh Channel. Some phone calls came in from people who were directly trying to speak against Sikh Channel and their presenter and those who were at the discussion show, but Sangat TV presenter Kulwant Singh had respect and did not allow this and even cut calls off. Hats off to him and Sangat TV for taking a more professional, civilised and Gurmukh approach. Callers, panel and audince on Sangat TV today were disgusted at Sikh Channels show and those involved (new to the Panthic scene, congress type people or those kicked out Gurdwara committees and jathebandia). Everyone was particularly upset and angry with so-called "Sant" Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Wala who has took one side and also spoke against panthic people and jathebandia (he supported all those who did this) and people asked why was here as he does not know anything about Dastar issues in UK/Europe. Someone also questioned his close links with traitor Paramjit Sarna of the Delhi Gurdwara Parbandak Committee who has also given a siropa to the grandson of the enemy of sikhs Lala Jagat Narain (he was killed by Sikhs years ago)...etc.

Please all post, not to speak against Sikh Channel and those present in their discussion show as enough has been said now, but to support the Panthic leaders and jathebandia who have been and are doing a great job for the panth, in their own particular way - those like AKJ, Babbar Khalsa, Sikh Federation, Damdami Taksal, FSO, Sikh Council, GNNSJ etc.

Also, if one does not support and attend Dastar Day, it does not mean they are not a Sikh but an Indian Government agent! That was a ridiculous statement as well!!!

Most Sikh Youth in UK are clear on their stance!

(Also see this topic which is interesting about D-Day - http://www.sikhsanga...onday-congrats/)

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Osingh ji

You have asked me few questions and i have answered those. Sant samaj is a combination having some genuine sants and preachers of sikhism.Examples are baba Sewa singh of Rampur khera, Hari singh Randhawewale etc. I respect them for their contribution towards furthering

sikhi.

Their oresence in SGPC is definitely keep enemies of sikhi at bay.

What is your opinion on Sarna, missionaries who are opponents of sant samaj.

How has the Sant Samaj kept the enemy at bay when they are the enemy of the Panth. I usually agree with your post, but this post misses the purpose of calling a spade a spade.

Sarna is an atheist, Sant Samaj are Brahmin followers, who do you pick here? Neither! Sant Hari Singh is respected, but seeing him standing along side the enemy of the Panth makes you think, what his true intentions are here. It would be different if Sant Hari Singh was sitting in a diwan and Dhumma was sitting close by. Or if the picture was taken couple years back, but the bright smiles on their face shows they are happy to have the devil Badal control Sri Akal Takht Sahib. How many smiles did the Panthic Jathas share with the enemies back in 1984? Sant Hari Singh has a lot of explaining to do here. Hes held in high regards, but this display of his, is looking as if hes bending his knees in Badals direction.

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Lmao this is who you follow Sikh youth ehh dal Khalsa the group that's been eating off name of Khalistan for countless years and supports anti dasam Granth nindaks this group has a strict racist agenda and is useless no wonder you didn't care much when sarbjit dhunda was caught doing nindiya of jaap sahib and didn't find it beadbi iv stated what dal Khalsa have said couple time but they are a joke think they'll become mahaan by their facebook statements that ohh sant ji is a mahaan shaheed etc... arnt they full of buddeh also.....

on another note, what the hell is wrong with ppl not agreeing with having a d day wouldn't guru maharaj be proud that a dastar day is happening in where the world is getting to know more about sikh identity, do you ppl want to spread sikh identity as a seperate identity or leave situation like now where a lot of ppl think we are muslims, hindus, etc....

ppl are putting their agendas before anything else, even sikh channel to some extent but the overall message of d day is good, i dont know whats wrong with ppl in UK that dont support d day besides the elders fighting over agendas, okha loka da.... might as well stop having turban day at nagar kirtans, gurdwaras etc, might as well stop having smaller mini holla mahallas.... even sikh channel need to put their agendas down with the anti khalistan procedures, i'v seen not all their anchors on favor of khalistan, in their meeting, one anchor (wheres blue pagg long whitish blackish beard, small fellow) would nod his head and put it down everytime khalistan or sant ji or puratan singhs way of handeling beadbi was brought up

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How has the Sant Samaj kept the enemy at bay when they are the enemy of the Panth. I usually agree with your post, but this post misses the purpose of calling a spade a spade.

Sarna is an atheist, Sant Samaj are Brahmin followers, who do you pick here? Neither! Sant Hari Singh is respected, but seeing him standing along side the enemy of the Panth makes you think, what his true intentions are here. It would be different if Sant Hari Singh was sitting in a diwan and Dhumma was sitting close by. Or if the picture was taken couple years back, but the bright smiles on their face shows they are happy to have the devil Badal control Sri Akal Takht Sahib. How many smiles did the Panthic Jathas share with the enemies back in 1984? Sant Hari Singh has a lot of explaining to do here. Hes held in high regards, but this display of his, is looking as if hes bending his knees in Badals direction.

Only five ji

What do you mean when you say sant samaj is brahmin follower. Can you elaborate by giving an example. They are the ones who were instrumental in getting ragi punished for his anti dasam stance. if there is one granth that is anti brahmin that is dasam granth sahib. So how did sant samaj became brahmin followers.

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GPS ji

Why have you only criticized sarna/congress and not Badal. Have you watched the video posted above?

Criticizing Baljit Singh ji only and not Sant Samaj is being hyprocrital.

How can Sant Samaj keep enemies at bay when their political leader Parkash Badal is one of the biggest enemies of the panth himself? Akali Dal Badal is partners of BJP do you know this? How can a party of BJP members keep the enemies at bay?

Please make your stance on Badal clear because you posts are confusing veer ji.

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