Call To Sangat: Have You Been Effected By These People?

[Only five]

But how can it possibly happen to people like me...i.e Sikhs. We Sikhs know that people such as Mai Bhago achieved union with god on death. What possible reason could we possibly have for doubting the great ones and assume they were refused union by god and sent on the endles life cycle again ?

Shaheed Singh and Kaurs are present in this world. They give darshan to Gursikhs.

So...I state once again....this type of thing can never happen to strong or even reasonably strong Sikhs. This can only happen to extremely weak minded Sikhs.

Devta and devis are laughing at your right now because you call yourself a Sikh, but have not even learned what a Sikh is. Devta and Devis are begging for mukhti, but aleast they understand now how to get mukhti. YOu on the other hand have no clue. Arrogance is your first name.

I seem to have been brought up with a different sort of Sikhism to many here. My parents tought me from a young age how advanced and scientificaly perfect Sikhi is compared to other faiths. I was brought up to believe that Sikhi doesn't believe in the mumbo jumbo superstitious nonsense of other faiths. I have to say I'm astounded by some of the things I'm reading here. Its like I'm communicating with a gang of superstitious mumbo jumbo believing hindus.

One man full of arrogance says God exist and worships himself. Another man full of arrogance says God does not exist and worships himself. There is no difference between the two. Both don't have the slighest idea of what God is.

[DustOfTheSaintsFeet]

This whole thing highlights to me just how silly some sikhs have become. You can't blame that couple for this. They're just parasites feeding on the stupidity of many stupid sikhs. There will always be charlatans. There will always be bullies. Their will always be cheaters and tricksters. But they are not the stupid ones. The stupid ones are the ones stupid enough to fall for the tricks.

You say I won't know how it feels until I personally experience it. Well....you're right. And I won't personally go through it because I'm not stupid enough or gullible enough to put myself in such a pathetic position.

Look.....We are Sikhs. We have Guru Granth Sahib ji to answer all our questions and guide us through life. Thats the whole point of being a Sikh. We have no ned for rituals....we have no need for toothsayers, clairvoyants and superstition. Thats the very reason our forefathers walked away from the religion that has superstition, toothsayers and rituals. It is truly ironic how...now...300 years later, the members of that old religion our forefathers left have stopped believing in mumbo jumbo whereas we are going backwards and believing in more mumbo jumbo than them....partaking in more rituals than them...etc ?

Believe me.....most people will be just like me in that they will read this thread and be amazed. Amazed not at the activities of that couiple but amazed and surprised at how gullible, weak bodied and weak minded many sikhs have become.

This thread may have started as an attempt to expose the tricksters but all its really achieved is highlighted how weak in the mind many people with the appearance of gursikhs are.

Great post. With the knowledge and application of gurbani, not just the ritual reading of it, we become gurbani- and such rituals and superstitions mean nothing for we are beyond them- When we Truly Accept God of No Image or Form as Truth- we are beyond all of the Bullshite.

He remains the lowest of the low, hence, accepting Truth 100% and living in his glory means living beyond all of the egotistical rituals and maya principles the world lives by...

Only once begins to lower their head completely and live in the most humble Truth of Nothingness(for we are and God is Nothing- no image, no form, no Nothing)- does one begin to live in acceptance of Hukam(True Love).

[PAL 07]

I would like to say that all of us need to learn from this and realise that we are living in kaljug and need to improve our gursikhi jeevan before kaljug takes us down and out. Kaljug has already finished a lot of the panth off including Jatherdar's of the Panth like Professor Darshan Singh to name but a few.

Remember kaljug is your enemy, when he went to the jungles to attack Baba Nand Singh Mahapurkh he said what is this Sukhmani Sahib that you are making everyone repeat. Baba Ji said oh it is good that you have told me how to get rid of you, every since that day Baba Ji kept maryada of 24/7 Sukhmani Sahib Akhand Jaap.

[SachHiSach]

Wjkk wjkf

first of all a big thanks to all the sangat for supporting this issue and raising awareness to the kind of manmat being carried out by those who are supposed to be setting an example wearing guru jis bana and big damalaa's...

The matter resolving this couple will be brought before 5singhs and the couple have been banned from carrying out any activities involving parchaar/camps/Sikh societies in an attempt to keep young vunerables Sikhs away from them...

We encourage all camp/youth leaders and presidents of Sikh societies to remain vigilant in the guests they invite to events and do strict background checks before inviting anyone to be a speaker to advocate The Sikh faith. please do get in touch via our email address if you require advice and guidance in this matter.

The elders involved in bring awareness were disgusted that the matter had gotten so far with so many people being affected and encouraged us to promote awareness in having faith and sharda in Guru Granth Sahib Ji maharaj and not to sucked in by such pakhandis

We wanted to make sangat aware that this matter is in the process of being escalated and addressed and soon enough we will be able to expose the identity of these fraudsters......

We would like to primarily thank Waheguru Ji for blessing us with sikhi and His help in the fight against fraudsters and nindaks of Sikhi which existed even in the Guru's time.

May waheguru Ji bless this couple with the sohjee to admit their wrong doings and put them back on the right path.

[_singhni_]

Just as a idea it might be wise to Facebook this situation (if not done so already) because there might still be sangat out there who are not aware of this couple. As they do look very "chalidkala" when you see them in sangat & as if they wouldn't hurt a fly.

Please keep sangat up to date with this situation.

[Akaalkaur84]

Vjkk Vjkf!

These people are just mayadharis chasing money in any way they can be it scam, con, borrow n deny..all in the name and saroop of Sikhi!

So much to that the couple I know..the 'apparent mata bhago' had a dream that she'd win the lottery so was chasing lottery tickets to win her millions yet gambling isn't part of sikhi. When her so called powers failed n she hadn't won the lottery (big big lol) she said she ran around the estate and found out that someone else had won it! Get a job and work like everyone else! Life's not a doddle so these people need to get that thru their heads. U call urself a chardi kala Gursikh who's dasam duar is open yet all u do Is chase money n pleasure..

Fact is its all lies n fake and now she's probably running around like a headless chicken trying to falsely prove her innocence..fact is if u tell people you are mata bhag Kaur ji..u can't deny it four years down the line as ur being questioned.

How many doors can u knock on to save urself when u have turned ur back on ur guru by so many lies? They do say the giddhar has to run from door to door when in danger and that's probably exactly what's happening right now to this fake lady....Which all the more shows the world how guilty u are.

One who has nothing to hide wudnt be running knocking on people's doors for help as guruji is by their side!

Its just a shame such people have so much ego that they keep running rather than accept their mistakes..well no one can run forever..

Fact is,such people end up with nothing n no one by their side when everyone sees the truth.

[Akaalkaur84]

A true Gursikh never has to chase maya as maya chases the Gursikh..and this lady thinks she is mata bhago yet all she does is dream About money..but finds work to be boring..wants to feed off others..guruji will do justice to all!

[_singhni_]

They will get what they deserve God is watching so even if they try to hide they can't hide forever. Only matter of time. Vaheguru

[gurbar]

I have a few questions for the people who are doing all this, who im sure are reading this forum day and night as they know the truth has been revealed. I hope you know this isnt about liking or disliking anyone, or holding grudges...or any of that...just about the truth...so why do you have to keep on denying the truth? what are you gettng out of this? Do you get a thrill from messing with peoples minds? is it entertaining to brainwash someone and watch the show? (I know you dont work, so if you have too much time on your hands and want to fill it to entertain yourselves, then why not go out there and get a job?) Can you please give us some answers? Did you think that you could pretend to be the shaheed souls from our ithaas forever? Were you planning on living this lie forever, without being stopped by the panth? Did you think no one would ever stand up to you?...answer is YES...to all those questions! but no surprises..u will continue to deny the truth!FACT-people have now stood upto you, and you are running around in circles trying to protect your lies...lol! You know the world is watching you and laughing at you!

There are many topics on this forum that are being discussed, but this one is of the beadbi of the panth, beadbi of the mahan shaheeds of our ithaas and a disgrace to Sikhi..and it needs to stop!

FACT-its hit a panthic level now which you never thought it would as you thought you had all angles covered, but forgot the biggest FACT-VAHEGURU is above all...including YOU! All you have done is lie to cover up the truth and not realised that your one lie to cover one truth has led to lie after lie after lie and you are just digging a deeper hole for yourselves. Sikhi teaches nimarta and forgiveness for your mistakes, but this couple are so arrogant and full of themselves that they are running around in their (hard earned..NOT LOL! actually SCAMMED money car), trying to gather people to support their lies. FACT-EVERYONE..and i mean EVERYONE knows the truth...even the people you are running to to suck up to....u could have just admitted the truth and walked away but the more you lie to cover up...the more obvious you make it.

People like this arent even truthful to their own blood, never mind to others..im just very sorry its had to be brought infront of the panth this way as there really was no need for it to be this way. FACT-panj piare will not take this lightly as beadbi of our ithaas is beadbi of our guruji and no panj piare will take that. There are heavy prices to pay for these deeds, but u cant blame anyone but the bibi (as although we are saying its the couple-FACT-we all know its the bibi thats brainwashed her husband and others). Its all her doings as she tells the world that her dasam duar is open...and he believes it. if you truly are mata bhago and your dasam duar is open, you would not be telling people bull about black magic and breaking families up....u just gone too far! and its going to stop! worst of all, you have a few chele who believe you...and i feel for them as where will they go when you stab them in the back too (actually ur already doing that with ur lies..so I guess what i mean is....poor guys wont know where to go when they wake up).

Atleast fear Vaheguru if no one else!

[ohifwinterends]

Blimey :omg: Thats actually quite embarrasing. Trust me...........if other people (such as muslims and Hindus) read that they're not gonna think "oh my god that couple must be really evil". What they're actually gonna do is laugh their heads off at how patheticaly weak the once mighty fearless gursikhs are.

So seriously......you say the man is a gursikh. But surely one of the very definitions of a gursikh is that he is one without fear ?

Nahh, I am Muslim and I don't think that. Stuff similar to this happens in every religion, unfortunately. There are some crazy people out there!