Taking Our Kirpaan Off Being Amrithdhaaree...

[Hau Apraadhi]

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Is it acceptable to take our kirpaan off so we can get on a plane for the sake of an international samaagam when what you're going for (saadhsangat & keertan) can be received where you live?

(So basically, you get the same thing but without taking your kirpaan off)

Views please...

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[xtremesingh18]

yes its fine, just dont eat untill you put your kirpan back on after the flight, and have done at least an ardas.

[singher23]

I think Akal Takht has said its fine to remove for air travel, just do what the above poster has said

[Akal Warrior]

yes its fine, just dont eat untill you put your kirpan back on after the flight, and have done at least an ardas.

Don't eat? Why not? Its like a 20+ hour flight to India. Why torture yourself? You think that's what God wants from us?

[xtremesingh18]

Don't eat? Why not? Its like a 20+ hour flight to India. Why torture yourself? You think that's what God wants from us?

precisely....

cant u survive a few hours without food? awwwww

[Hau Apraadhi]

hmmm.... but what if a situation arises on the plane and you can't sort it without your kirpaan? Then we're not thyaar bar thyaar as we should be right?

[Akal Warrior]

precisely....

cant u survive a few hours without food? awwwww

its not a matter of not being able to survive without food...the question is why? What is the point of it? Is it to lessen our guilt of not wearing a kirpan?

[xtremesingh18]

you shouldnt be using your kirpan to sort out situations anyway, it will only lead to controversy and the removal of our right to wear it legally.

[xtremesingh18]

its not a matter of not being able to survive without food...the question is why? What is the point of it? Is it to lessen our guilt of not wearing a kirpan?

in mornings, we do not eat without first doing nitnem, similarly we should not eat without our panj kakars on. If you feel so strongly about it, and dont see the point then by all means eat whenever you want.

its discussed further here:

http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,9188,9390

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/42673-indiakirpanairport/

[KhalistaniGunMan]

hmmm.... but what if a situation arises on the plane and you can't sort it without your kirpaan? Then we're not thyaar bar thyaar as we should be right?

yep i agree...we are not tyaar bar tyaar..thats our own fault really...no sovereignty..no rights...khalsa is supposed to be Shastardhari ALL THE TIME....if we cant keep that oath then we are not real khalsa