The Disaster/Catastrophe

[VanHelsingh]

i meant to press "quote" rather than like this, so dont get confused.

it was soldiers of the moghals vs sikh civilians in the 1st 2 ghallugahras. in 1947, the police, military and civilians on both sides were involved in killing the other communities. But i dont understand why if the Sikhs killed muslims, the whole event cant be classed as a ghallughara.

Killing aside, we lost so much pof our religious heritage, not to mention the best lands, businesses, factories, and shops.

I stand corrected. I can just see the inevitable cries from the "other side". Not that it should lessen our loss as Sikhs, but you know what I mean and you know how these things work.

The best angle to approach this situation from is what you mentioned above.

[chatanga]

Brothers and sister, today is the day 1 of the Great Disaster, whereby 40% of the Sikh people suddenly became foreigners and unwanted in their ancestral homes and lands. The day where someone decided, the Sikhs will have to leave their beloved places of religion and history.

Remember it, and spread it around.

[HSD2]

Every day since 21st February 1849 has been a disaster.

[DalbirSingh]

may allah give victory to the jews

[harj1ts1ngh]

We the Sikh nation have gone through a similiar "naqba" in 1947 when we were forced from west panjab, leaving over historical 180 gurdwaras to decay. This is the naqba of the Sikhs, and the whole world knows about the palestinians remembering the naqba, but we have even forgotten our naqba, even in my local gurdwara, they have never said anything about it , as far as i can remember.

We should be looking at remembering 14th August(pakistan independence day) and 15th august (indian independence day) as our own naqba, and letting firstly our people know, and secondly the world know, about it.

The closest panjabi word i could find for disaster at the moment is :

musibat, shaamat, bad naseebi or afat. lets have your input brothers and sister.

We have to educate the Sikhs about this event.

Thanks for the reminder to Sangat Chatanga Veer. The 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of our people were killed should never be forgotten. America was unhappy about 9/11 but imagine if the Muslims killed 80 million Americans today, only then would that give a sense of the brutal and unimaginable level of Genocide the Punjabi Muslims inflicted upon Sikhs in 1947.

Because you'd get people piping up that Sikhs were also responsible for some of the killings.

I'd stick to the religious angle in terms of having our holy places taken away from us. When you start getting into 'who killed who' and 'how many died' etc., you could end up with a situation where Sikhs come off looking quite bad.

VanHel Singh Veer, the Sikhs were a one third minority in Majha, Malwa and Doaba. The Muslims were just as populous in these areas and had aims to include all of Punjab within Pakistan. When Muslims started to try ethnically cleanse Sikhs out of Amritsar (where there were more Muslims than Sikhs) only then did Sikhs start to defend themselves. In a war, there are innocent casualties on all sides but in the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs one in four of our people in Pakistan were killed. One in twenty Muslims in east Punjab lost their lives, of whom the majority were rich so-called upper-caste Muslim Zamindar jihadi's who had attempted to lead the ethnic cleansing of Sikhs out of Indian Punjab. That is not to deny the suffering of around one in forty Punjabi Muslims who perhaps were not linked to the madness (but who had nevertheless voted for the inclusion of all Punjab under Muslim rule). Quite clearly, Sikhs suffered more than ten times as much pro-rata casualties as the Muslims.

As we see in the 2nd World War, innocent Germans also died but the 25% of Sikh population that was killed in Pakistan is one of the worst holocausts in World History. The equivalent of if 80 million Americans were killed by Muslims today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlq2JgdUaHU

The way we should commemorate the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs is by increasing our own efforts towards the Sikh Panth's modern Dharam Yudh against drugs, sharaab, biraderi, abortion of females, cancer and illiteracy.

[chatanga]

And brothers and sisters, today is day 2 of the Great Disaster, when we were condemned to live under the falseness of india.

The Sikhs leaders, trying so hard not to be a minority in Pakistan, became one in Hindustan.

[chatanga]

Day one of the Great Disaster of 1947.

Remember it, tell your friends, and spread awareness.

[chatanga]

I am surprised at the amount of a$$-kissing of Pakistanis by my Sikh brothers on facebook, who are wishing them congratulations on their freedom.

[chatanga]

Today is the anniversary of Day 2 of The Naqba - The great Disaster. On this day, in 1947 the Sikhs were deceived into living under barbarian rule. Ever since we have known death and humiliation as part of our diet.