Indian Culture Versus Gurmat(Khalsa) Culture And Making Leaders

[shastarSingh]

An Australian has blasted the Indian Culture for its incapability to produce leaders. Is his analysis correct ? How is Gurmat culture different from Indian culture as even we are unable to produce leaders in political and spiritual domains.

http://www.thatscric...an-culture.html

"The (Indian) culture is very different, it's not a team culture. They lack leaders in the team because they are not trained to be leaders. From an early age, their parents make all the decisions, their schoolteachers make their decisions, their cricket coaches make the decisions," Chappell said.

"The culture of India is such that, if you put your head above the parapet someone will shoot it. Knock your head off. So they learn to keep their head down and not take responsibility.

"The Poms (British) taught them really well to keep their head down. For if someone was deemed to be responsible, they'd get punished. So the Indians have learned to avoid responsibility. So before taking responsibility for any decisions, they prefer not to," Chappell was quoted as saying during a promotional event for his book 'Fierce Focus'.

[Premi5]

On 3/8/2012 at 1:44 PM, shastarSingh said:

An Australian has blasted the Indian Culture for its incapability to produce leaders. Is his analysis correct ? How is Gurmat culture different from Indian culture as even we are unable to produce leaders in political and spiritual domains.

http://www.thatscric...an-culture.html

Is it a good book @shastarSingh Ji? I know you are a cricket fan.

I agree a lot with the quotes. I find Indians to be ‘know-all’s’ - the elder generations always try to impose their thinking and decision-making on the younger ones. So there are a lot of leaders, but at an older age. And these elders can be very egotistical.

i don’t know if I agree with the reason that Indians prefer to keep low profile is to do with the British - I think it’s just Indian culture to try not to ‘stand out’ and ‘cause trouble’

[MisterrSingh]

9 hours ago, Premi5 said:

I agree a lot with the quotes. I find Indians to be ‘know-all’s’ - the elder generations always try to impose their thinking and decision-making on the younger ones. So there are a lot of leaders, but at an older age. And these elders can be very egotistical.

I imagine it would be difficult to maintain a balance of genuine respect and affection for elders when knowing that a particular elder is fundamentally wrong about most things. 

I've always liked those scenes in the Godfather when Vito decides to retire from being the Don after he recovers from his attempted murder, passing control to Michael. He fades into the background, acting solely as an advisor to Michael who ultimately is encouraged to stand up and make decisions and lead. Even when the old timers gravitate towards Vito in Michael's presence, he gently ushers them to Michael in order to cement the idea that Vito's no longer The Top Man. Fiction or not, that's wisdom and a sense of being secure enough in your own skin to know when to gracefully cede control of the family's day-to-day running. 

[Ranjeet01]

9 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Is it a good book @shastarSingh Ji? I know you are a cricket fan.

I agree a lot with the quotes. I find Indians to be ‘know-all’s’ - the elder generations always try to impose their thinking and decision-making on the younger ones. So there are a lot of leaders, but at an older age. And these elders can be very egotistical.

i don’t know if I agree with the reason that Indians prefer to keep low profile is to do with the British - I think it’s just Indian culture to try not to ‘stand out’ and ‘cause trouble’

Indians are know-it-alls at all ages. 

They are experts in politics,sports,philosophy, legal system, immigration system, history.

The phrase "I don't know" does not exist for them.

They know more than the actual experts who studied from hearing something off the grapevine. 

They basically bluff and BS a lot.

[Ranjeet01]

Indian culture by and large is a blame culture.

It is a culture that does not like you to go out there and make mistakes. 

Mistakes are how you learn.

How often have you seen an Indian teacher beat a kid for making a tiny mistake.

The Indian has the incapability of explaining why one method is wrong and why another method is better. 

You are just expected to know. 

For that particular reason people can become risk averse and defer authority.

[shastarSingh]

10 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Is it a good book @shastarSingh Ji? I know you are a cricket fan.

I agree a lot with the quotes. I find Indians to be ‘know-all’s’ - the elder generations always try to impose their thinking and decision-making on the younger ones. So there are a lot of leaders, but at an older age. And these elders can be very egotistical.

i don’t know if I agree with the reason that Indians prefer to keep low profile is to do with the British - I think it’s just Indian culture to try not to ‘stand out’ and ‘cause trouble’

I really love listening to sir Ian chappell.

Even Punjabi culture has flaws.

I am 39 and my mad bevkoof mother doesn't allow me to take any decision. She out of her Moh(which is one of the 5 chorr) never trained me to be self independent and to survive in this mad world.

She also made sure that I get divorced.

[shastarSingh]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Indian culture by and large is a blame culture.

It is a culture that does not like you to go out there and make mistakes. 

Mistakes are how you learn.

How often have you seen an Indian teacher beat a kid for making a tiny mistake.

The Indian has the incapability of explaining why one method is wrong and why another method is better. 

You are just expected to know. 

For that particular reason people can become risk averse and defer authority.

Another problem is

If a person is being harassed by police or government servant, fellow citizens don't stand up with the oppressed person.

That's one of the reasons, police and government employees harass people.

India is a very selfish society.

[Ranjeet01]

40 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Another problem is

If a person is being harassed by police or government servant, fellow citizens don't stand up with the oppressed person.

That's one of the reasons, police and government employees harass people.

India is a very selfish society.

It is a culture where there is lack of accountability. 

No one is going to apologise because by doing so is showing weakness. You never hear anyone say , " Meri galti, mah maafi karnia "

Blame shifting is common.

[shastarSingh]

8 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

It is a culture where there is lack of accountability. 

No one is going to apologise because by doing so is showing weakness. You never hear anyone say , " Meri galti, mah maafi karnia "

Blame shifting is common.

Dear veer

Do u watch cricket?

Indian cricketers always go for personal records and achievements and are selfish.

Bhainchod tendulkar even after earning so much money likes to lick the <banned word filter activated> of ambani and did not stand with farmers at all.

[Ranjeet01]

7 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Dear veer

Do u watch cricket?

Indian cricketers always go for personal records and achievements and are selfish.

Bhainchod tendulkar even after earning so much money likes to lick the <banned word filter activated> of ambani and did not stand with farmers at all.

Not a particularly big cricket fan.

India is a country where humans are worshipped, Tendulkar is not a God,  he is just a human being.