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I have always wonderes as to why have i never seen any woman granthies at Darbar Sahib . Then i came to know that they are simple not allowed to be . Given the great virtues of equality our Gurus gave bestowed upon us, i fail to understand why there is this discrimination at our most important Gurudwara . Why doesn't anyone do something about this?????????

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To the Singh Sahibs who feel let women do any lobbying they want, (i.e. it;s not the Singh's issue/problem, it's the Singhni's problem, let her sort it out) it should be known that history has shown c

this bibi agrees with you , most woman lack the courage to move forward , they are too afraid of what other men and woman might say , it's the male dominated culture trap ! people talk about sex equal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6bb21HIgPY ...you know I'm kidding, Singh. Or am I?..... :wow: How we went from whether our sisters should undertake Granthi duties to the topic of homosexuality with

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My opinion is once we take back the SGPC from the hands of masands (puppets of Badal and sell outs to the likes of the RSS) such issues can further be tackled.

In Sikhi, women should be allowed to do kirtan or any sewa in Darbar Sahib.

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My opinion is once we take back the SGPC from the hands of masands (puppets of Badal and sell outs to the likes of the RSS) such issues can further be tackled.

In Sikhi, women should be allowed to do kirtan or any sewa in Darbar Sahib.

What, bibiya aren't allowed to do kirtan and seva in Darbar Sahib? :wow:

Surely they're allowed to do seva in the kitchens, yes?

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What, bibiya aren't allowed to do kirtan and seva in Darbar Sahib? :wow:

Surely they're allowed to do seva in the kitchens, yes?

As funny as it sounds, I know people who believe bibian aren't allowed to Kirtan and sewa in Darbar Sahib. One person's justification: they didn't do it before, so why do it now? :stupidme:

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My opinion is once we take back the SGPC from the hands of masands (puppets of Badal and sell outs to the likes of the RSS) such issues can further be tackled.

In Sikhi, women should be allowed to do kirtan or any sewa in Darbar Sahib.

im all for bibya doing seva in darbar sahib..but there must be a reason why they have not been allowed to as of yet...why were they never allowed to do kirtan?..there must be a reason..

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im all for bibya doing seva in darbar sahib..but there must be a reason why they have not been allowed to as of yet...why were they never allowed to do kirtan?..there must be a reason..

My honest guess is the same reason only a few Singhnian picked up arms and fought. I guess it's because of how much gender roles play a part in our daily lives. I don't think the reason was that they weren't allowed, but that they didn't try. Now if they try i think it's said it is not allowed.

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My honest guess is the same reason only a few Singhnian picked up arms and fought. I guess it's because of how much gender roles play a part in our daily lives. I don't think the reason was that they weren't allowed, but that they didn't try. Now if they try i think it's said it is not allowed.

Could be...we see many more male Sants than female Sants...

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My honest guess is the same reason only a few Singhnian picked up arms and fought. I guess it's because of how much gender roles play a part in our daily lives. I don't think the reason was that they weren't allowed, but that they didn't try. Now if they try i think it's said it is not allowed.

Yes, gender in terms of the way the culture at the time was heavily male oriented. Some might say it still is.

So Sikhs (or faiths from similar Asian backgrounds) were hardly keeping their women down whilst the whites in Europe were awash with female saints and warriors. Joan of Arc and Saint Teresa (not Mother Teresa) are the only notable figures I can think of from the top of my head without resorting to Google.

Wasn't it in the early 90s there was a big hoo-haa in England about females finallly being able to be ordained as bishops or ministers? So its not as if the West has been leading the way for centuries when it comes to gender equality in religion.

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discrimination ....

And then they sugercoat it with "Its our tradition "crap !

We are a discrimination-free, casteless religion in Guru Granth sahib only , not in actual practise

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mainly because people think people will start perving on them, in gurdwara male raagis do kirtan infront of men and not women, it is for gender thing really and mainly. Some people try introduce at times segregation at times some people have mentioned some women get molested in harmander sahib some have said people grab there chest or other forms of lustful points of assault. Also women can't do ishnan with men they can't do it infront of everyone, women have a small separated room. some might ask if men and women are equal why don't men and women share toilets in public or even in gurdwaras, men and women share toilets at home. So to avoid perverts or other things involving lust from happening some provisions take place however we do have istri sabhas in gurdwaras where women do kirtan. next people will ask why can't women be panj pyare?

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