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The 'Ambedkar / Dalit' situation is one of the handful of moments in our history that makes my heart sink. I actually feel a little bit sick when I think about the missed opportunity.

I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER BRO!! I remember reading about this in 2008-9 time, n i nearly broke my keyboard! SUCH missed opportunities, for certain individuals personal gains.

Also u may not know, but ambedkar, almost in an act of revenge (possibly, i dont know), but he is the bandhar who sed the anand karaj is same as hindu marriage, despite the british recognising it, so its coz of him that all these yrs we have had 2 fight for our marriage act from hindu's.

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I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER BRO!! I remember reading about this in 2008-9 time, n i nearly broke my keyboard! SUCH missed opportunities, for certain individuals personal gains.

Also u may not know, but ambedkar, almost in an act of revenge (possibly, i dont know), but he is the bandhar who sed the anand karaj is same as hindu marriage, despite the british recognising it, so its coz of him that all these yrs we have had 2 fight for our marriage act from hindu's.

Pachaara was probably heart-broken and lashed out at Sikhs. I'm not even sure whether I'm joking or not... :blink2:

A bit off-topic but I've heard that the Gandhi (Indira, Rajiv, etc) family are from the lineage of Gangu (the traitor). Is that true? The reason I ask is because the shaheediyan of the youngest Sahibzaade is another one of those moments that makes me feel terrible (an understatement).

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Rebelsingh "what Chauder" have you seen the amount of Gurdwaras in Birmingham / Southal ie Singh Sabha, Ramgharia, Bhatra ALL CASTE based etc they ALL need Committees with a leader and his minions if this is not Chauder I don't know what is... why do these mugs need to call themselves leaders maybe in the real world they can't speak good enough English to be head of anything else.

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Pachaara was probably heart-broken and lashed out at Sikhs. I'm not even sure whether I'm joking or not... :blink2:

A bit off-topic but I've heard that the Gandhi family are from the lineage of Gangu (the traitor). Is that true? The reason I ask is because the shaheediyan of the youngest Sahibzaade is another one of those moments that makes me feel terrible (an understatement).

that kameeena gangu who handed over the sahibzadas, is descendent of NEHRU/Charrel/Witch Indira, its probably why he hated us, n she invaded golden temple. Also during ambedkars flirtation with sikhi, that dirty bandha, mahatma gandhi, tried 2 discourage him, fearing the sikh population rise!

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Rebel singh "what Chauder" are you joking why have we got 10 Gurdwaras in some local area's ALL caste based when Sikhi is the Khalsa all equal.

What ever you think of Dr Ambedkar (I don't know much either) but he had the vision of not joining something which he could see miles off which many of us even now shy away from admitting.

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Rebelsingh "what Chauder" have you seen the amount of Gurdwaras in Birmingham / Southal ie Singh Sabha, Ramgharia, Bhatra ALL CASTE based etc they ALL need Committees with a leader and his minions if this is not Chauder I don't know what is... why do these mugs need to call themselves leaders maybe in the real world they can't speak good enough English to be head of anything else.

My friend if u wud care 2 read my post again, i said, "Whats Chauder?", as in what the eff does that word mean

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whats Chauder?

>>It's the idiots wanting "leadership" fame/wealth etc

also regarding that mug ambedkar, WHY did he need the permission of sikh leaders 2 become a sikh?

>>Apparently he wanted to shak Amrit in Amritsar so as to set a public example that Dalits are not Hindu's

... because Sikhi is all about human equality and social justice for all.

I didnt kno u needed some one elses ijazat 2 convert!

>>True I wish he had.

He shudda jus converted, but sorry 2 say, the jatt leaders, who feared that jatts would then become a minority tribe in sikhi wud sum how suffer!!

>>Sometimes it seems to me, Sikhi will only progress when we Punjabi's become a minority segment of Sikhs

WHO GIVES A EFF what tribe u belong 2, aslong as we r sikhs, end of!

>>Exactly, I agree with u 100%

Had the jatt leaders said "YESS DALIT PAAJIS OF INDIA, welcome 2 sikhi", then our population would been over 120m+ today!

>>Sikhi can still expand if we realise our Dalit brothers in India as natural born Sikhs. Kabirpanthi's+Ravidassia's alone total 100 million and many of them kept SGGS Ji Maharaj before Indira started her campaign to split them away from Sikhs. However, we don't help our case given the discrimination some Sikhs face in Punjab itself.

I used 2 get angry wen i first learned bowt this stuff, now, nuthin shocks me anymore, nuthin!!

>>Anger is a good emotion, if we make sure to follow it up with positive actions, bro. Peace

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that kameeena gangu who handed over the sahibzadas, is descendent of NEHRU/Charrel/Witch Indira, its probably why he hated us, n she invaded golden temple. Also during ambedkars flirtation with sikhi, that dirty bandha, mahatma gandhi, tried 2 discourage him, fearing the sikh population rise!

Okay cheers for the confirmation. Woah, just look at the connections and how history ended up linking Sikhs negatively with two figures of the same lineage; it's amazing in a completely sad and unfortunate way.

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Okay cheers for the confirmation. Woah, just look at the connections and how history ended up linking Sikhs negatively with two figures of the same lineage; it's amazing in a completely sad and unfortunate way.

ALSO, remember how only few decades before, gangu's fellow brahmins were saved by Guru Tegh Bahadur, n in return gangu had guru ji's wife n 2 lil grankids handed over 2 wazir the kuttha! Appreciation is not a word in the brahmins dictionary

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