Nihungs, Surely They Would Have Had A System Of Unarmed Combat!

[GPS]

To beginwith Nihungs and Damdami taksal were one and same.But later damdami taksal separated and was a sikh seminary.

Niddar is certainly not only Nihung who knows about martial art.There must be more sikhs from Nihung jathebandis in India

who knows about this art far better than Niddar. There are many shashtars named in shashtar nam mala in Dasam Granth sahib

and only those puratan Nihungs know the meanings of their names.

[caveman]

Baba Ram Singh, former Jathedar of Akali Phoola Singh Burj under Budha Dal Jathedar Akali Baba Sahib Singh discusses Shastarvidiya with Nidar Singh Nihang. Audio recorded in September 1998.

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[Singh559]

Baba Ram Singh, former Jathedar of Akali Phoola Singh Burj under Budha Dal Jathedar Akali Baba Sahib Singh discusses Shastarvidiya with Nidar Singh Nihang. Audio recorded in September 1998.

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Jason B on there is a pro-hinduvita pro-RSS mentality kind of person lol.

[caveman]

On 4/22/2012 at 1:28 PM, GPS said:

 

Niddar is certainly not only Nihung who knows about martial art.There must be more sikhs from Nihung jathebandis in India

who knows about this art far better than Niddar.

 

13 years later from this post.. No one else has come forward and say with their chest..... They also know full Jungi vidiya.

Absolutely no one

[ipledgeblue]

On 1/7/2025 at 2:25 PM, caveman said:

 

13 years later from this post.. No one else has come forward and say with their chest..... They also know full Jungi vidiya.

Absolutely no one

and the gatka akharas haven't improved. I saw stuff on BBC and it was embarrassing. Still teaching bhangra moves, morris dancing and I came across an infinity symbol stick move taught as a beginner move??!!

[VSinghz7]

It doesn't matter. What the nihangs did 100 years ago has no relevance today. Because people fight differently now. As a karate black belt, 90% of what we learn is useless, cos it revolves around how people fought 100 years ago. Today, most teenage boys likely to cause fights (at least in the uk) do boxing. But when boxing was really popular, people used to throw punches, hence why the "man to man fist fight" image was there. But now that UFC is popular, people do all sorts like grappling, knees and all (even with no training). 

And also, I highly doubt anyone ever attacked a nihang Singh unarmed back then, just by seeing their saroop with shastaraan. What they did do, however, was Loh Mushti but that was more of a sport than a combat system. They definitely would have trained in basic fighting like wrestling and strikes but not a system. Because any good fighter knows that trying to find a "code" to fight by is stupid. But in terms of unarmed fighting, it was rare and probably revolved around disarming an armed attacker (do NOT even attemp to learn that, you will get killed and there's no point even trying to learn).

 

If you're interested for historical/ preservation purposed then great, but if you want to learn it for self defense or fighting tactics then pls don't, because what worked then won't work now and Nihangs were probably quite limited in hand to hand combat training cos they're armed to the teeth, deterring any unarmed attacker and killing one if they tried to fight

[ipledgeblue]

On 2/5/2025 at 7:06 PM, VSinghz7 said:

It doesn't matter. What the nihangs did 100 years ago has no relevance today. Because people fight differently now. As a karate black belt, 90% of what we learn is useless, cos it revolves around how people fought 100 years ago. Today, most teenage boys likely to cause fights (at least in the uk) do boxing. But when boxing was really popular, people used to throw punches, hence why the "man to man fist fight" image was there. But now that UFC is popular, people do all sorts like grappling, knees and all (even with no training). 

And also, I highly doubt anyone ever attacked a nihang Singh unarmed back then, just by seeing their saroop with shastaraan. What they did do, however, was Loh Mushti but that was more of a sport than a combat system. They definitely would have trained in basic fighting like wrestling and strikes but not a system. Because any good fighter knows that trying to find a "code" to fight by is stupid. But in terms of unarmed fighting, it was rare and probably revolved around disarming an armed attacker (do NOT even attemp to learn that, you will get killed and there's no point even trying to learn).

 

If you're interested for historical/ preservation purposed then great, but if you want to learn it for self defense or fighting tactics then pls don't, because what worked then won't work now and Nihangs were probably quite limited in hand to hand combat training cos they're armed to the teeth, deterring any unarmed attacker and killing one if they tried to fight

 

 

"Preserve Shastar Vidiya any way you can."
(Rattan Singh Bhangu, Siri Guru Panth Parkash, ed. Dr Balwant Singh Dhillon, 36)

[VSinghz7]

On 3/13/2025 at 12:09 PM, ipledgeblue said:

 

 

"Preserve Shastar Vidiya any way you can."
Rattan Singh Bagau, Siri Guru Panth Parkash, ed. Dr Balwant Singh Dhillon, 36)

THIS QUESTION IS ABOUT UNARMED COMBAT, NOT SHASTAR VIDIYA (the science of WEAPONS). But let's pretend you didn't fail the first step of answering a question (to read it carefully):

1) Bro if that's not from Gurbani I don't wanna hear it. I ONLY accept hukam from the 10 Gurus of Sikhism and Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Not Bhindranwale, not anyone else and defo not 'Rattan Singh Bagghu' who lived in the 1700s wayy after Guru attained Joti Jot at Nanded (he's a historian).

2) Shastar Vidhaya actually means 'the science of weapons', but today ppl view it as literally the form of Nihang combat we see today. 'Preserve shastar vidiya' could just mean preserving the martial culture (which we do).

[caveman]

Shastar vidiya . The basis of the unarmed is foundation for the armed combat. 

There can be a point where u can't get to your weapons. What will you do? Of course the khalsa had unrmed skills. If your sword or weapons broke. What would you do? Grappling etc. wrestling etc. 

 

Unarmed combat is known as "platha"

[caveman]

On 3/18/2025 at 6:56 PM, VSinghz7 said:

 

1) Bro if that's not from Gurbani I don't wanna hear it. I ONLY accept hukam from the 10 Gurus of Sikhism and Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Not Bhindranwale, not anyone else and defo not 'Rattan Singh Bagghu' who lived in the 1700s wayy after Guru attained Joti Jot at Nanded (he's a historian).

 

Ridiculous. Just chuck your history away because it's not gurbani. What a joker.. typical modern day Sikh.

"Sikhism"

If it wasn't for rattan Singh bhangu how would you even know of your itias? Someone like you just came out of thin air.