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SGGS doesn't say anything about Big bang and evolution either ! it must not be true then , isn't it ?

you got that amazing thing in your skull ? use it for godsake !

When you have nothing virtuous to add to a discussion, you make it personal. Your in a vicious cycle of self destruction. I wish someone could smack some sense into you, but there has to be a willingness from your part to understand why the smack came. The people on this forum that favor your way of thinking, will never tell you to change your attitude. IF you just change your attitude, maybe you will be able to understand what others are saying. I know you think this forum is a big joke and you just come here to mess with people, but life lessons come from all over the places. The wise ones pick up on them and engrave it in their mind not to be foolish again.

I can present you both sides of this arguement and show you how your making big mistakes from understanding this discussion. You on the other hand cound't understand one sentence i made and the member Kaljugi had to explain it to you, but i still doubt you understand kaljugi's explanation.

In order to discuss with another on any topic make sure you know the other sides arguement before coming in. If you don't, then how can you even know who is right and who is wrong. All you did with this discussion is make things up as you went, without taking into consideration on how logical your argument is.

And before you enter into Sikhi discussion, make sure you know what Sikhi is. Honestly on this topic you are lost. And are just replying as your emotions influence you too.

Lastly i don't hate homosexuals and i don't hate heterosexuals. Now ask yourself, why is he putting heterosexuals in the same category?

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Due to political correctness of the modern world homosexuality was taken out of the lists of paraphilias in the early 70s because homosexuality began to be widely accepted by the mainstream American s

An excerpt on his attitude toward homosexuality reads: "...Yogi Bhajan at first was shocked by the phenomenon. Through the 1970s and early 1980s, Yogi Bhajan taught that the condition could be cured

Did homosexuality originate from the West? Surely it's a human condition based on physiology and not geographical location? If it's not in-line with Sikhi then as a Sikh there is no counter argument.

This discussion summarizes the modern Sikh state of mind.. "lets find something pointless to squabble about"

Watch man city v man u if u got nothing better on.

Ps funny how its always the same folk too :D

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This discussion summarizes the modern Sikh state of mind.. "lets find something pointless to squabble about"

Watch man city v man u if u got nothing better on.

Ps funny how its always the same folk too :D

That was a crap game. Damn Vincent Kompany

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That was a crap game. Damn Vincent Kompany

What? ur a yank init?! wat u doin watchin football? Anyways my yank friend, the game may have seemed dull 2 u, coz u may not understand how football works/wat stage in the season we r at. The winner of this game will probably go on n win the title, so there was an air of caution from both, oh n by the way, UTD SUCK, dur fitteh moo theray fergie.

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^ the folks here ::

I do consider it foolish to come here and speak everything about homosexuality . In 4 years or so , I myself will have to hook up with a girl . I don't see any other option now because I am only son of my parents . I am considerate enough to not land them in this entire mess ..

I think its just a couple of years before I land myself in this ordinary , nothing special about grihast jeevan .

ALSO , I find attitude of some people here nauseating .. The fella who said "even heteros think sex is icky but do it for sake of grihast jeevan" . As if people are just a sex machine !

The fact that religious clergy is obsessed with people's sex life is disturbing ... Heteros would do world a bit favor for not "breeding" for the sake of grihast jeevan (sugar coated word for 'reproduction') .. we got enough people on this planet already !

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When you have nothing virtuous to add to a discussion, you make it personal. Your in a vicious cycle of self destruction. I wish someone could smack some sense into you, but there has to be a willingness from your part to understand why the smack came. The people on this forum that favor your way of thinking, will never tell you to change your attitude. IF you just change your attitude, maybe you will be able to understand what others are saying. I know you think this forum is a big joke and you just come here to mess with people, but life lessons come from all over the places. The wise ones pick up on them and engrave it in their mind not to be foolish again.

I can present you both sides of this arguement and show you how your making big mistakes from understanding this discussion. You on the other hand cound't understand one sentence i made and the member Kaljugi had to explain it to you, but i still doubt you understand kaljugi's explanation.

In order to discuss with another on any topic make sure you know the other sides arguement before coming in. If you don't, then how can you even know who is right and who is wrong. All you did with this discussion is make things up as you went, without taking into consideration on how logical your argument is.

And before you enter into Sikhi discussion, make sure you know what Sikhi is. Honestly on this topic you are lost. And are just replying as your emotions influence you too.

Lastly i don't hate homosexuals and i don't hate heterosexuals. Now ask yourself, why is he putting heterosexuals in the same category?

All I see is rant ! :biggrin2:

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What? ur a yank init?! wat u doin watchin football? Anyways my yank friend, the game may have seemed dull 2 u, coz u may not understand how football works/wat stage in the season we r at. The winner of this game will probably go on n win the title, so there was an air of caution from both, oh n by the way, UTD SUCK, dur fitteh moo theray fergie.

Lololololol it was a crap game because united lost, I know exactly what was going on, I try and watch as many premier and la liga games as I can....and Lotta people here watch soccer/football. Hard to watch games here though, gotta go on these mad sketchy sites with crap quality to watch em

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SGGS doesn't say anything about Big bang and evolution either ! it must not be true then , isn't it ?

you got that amazing thing in your skull ? use it for godsake !

u stupid , GURU JI said everythingstarted with gods name , science calls it bang bang , then it continued and evovled expaneded from there but it all started from one , sciencesay the same , GURU JI says there are miliions and millions of planets and universes , science says the same

atheistrbeoming sikh due to how great our religon is , but ppl lik u just doubt in sikhi or dont hv that much gyan

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SGGS doesn't say anything about Big bang and evolution either ! it must not be true then , isn't it ?

you got that amazing thing in your skull ? use it for godsake !

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Brother, let me please be clear that I am in no way advocating that gay people be persecuted to be considered lesser human being because of being homosexuals.

SGGSj is the ustat of Akal Purkh. SGGSj is not like semitic holy books which says what is right and what is not on worldly matters. For example SGGSj remains silent on pedophilia, necrophilia, zoophilia, incest as well but it does not mean those various paraphilias are accepted in Gurmat. Similarly homosexuality is not accepted if one were to see the life and teachings of Sikh gurus, Bhagat Sahibaan or Mahapursh from puraatan to modern times. The Akal Takht has given it's verdict on homosexuality and it clearly states that a marriage can only occur between man and woman not same sex. You can follow the ways of the world or follow Gurmat. A Sikh is suppose to bend himself to fit into SIkhi not bend Sikhi to fit into their preconceived notions.

Thats my entire point ! lolz

I am not asking for same sex marriage or promoting homosexuality , but did you even notice flaw in your argument ?

First you say SGGS is not for worldly matters , and yet you judge a purely worldly matter such as sexual orientation on gurmat's basis :biggrin2:

Tell me which Guru sahiban said anything about homosexuality . I think its not even mentioned in S Dasam granth . I could be wrong ... but as far as I've read I didn't find it .

10th Guru gave many hukamnamas in letter form, many of which we still have , some of which prohibit sikhs from sexual misconduct .

Is there any hukamnama even mentioning homosexuality ?

Which mahapursh are we talking about ?? One often has ideas differing from another one , sometimes unfortunately , even contradicting ! Again in these 500 years , Sikh religion is the ONLY religion which does not mention homosexuality in anyway !

Shouldn't you be proud that amidst all the hates from religions coming in way of these homos , atleast sikhism spares them .

Isn't this a good thing that your religion does not discriminate on someone's sexual orientation ?? why try to interpret otherwise ?

Oh and don't start me going on Akal Takhat sahib's verdict , :cool2: Let me ask you guys one thing :: Haven't you guys questioned Akal Takhat's credibility here on this very site not so long ago , calling Akal Jathedar a RSS agent or Badal's pet or something . Because when Akal Takhat Jathedar passes a verdict which makes sense to us , its coming from the guru

and when it sounds sloppy to us , then its either the RSS , badal ke or congress ....

How do you decide which hukamnama from Akal takhat sahib is actually based on sikhi principles ?? or is it from rss , or from the congress or badal ?

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