Guru Granth Sahib Ji In Prison Chaplaincy? Satkaar?

[Singh559]

Ever thought of providing sri guru granth sahib ji in english in prison?..that should take care of beadhi aspect as well as providing sikh spiritual assistance via chaplain in prisons.

I believe english copy of sri guru granth sahib ji available in 3ho gurdwaras..!

Or perhaps audio so they can listen to Gurbani whenever in both English/Punjabi and that way they can listen to katha as well.

[Gurdaspuria E12]

i cant see how a prison can be fully equipped in regards to keeping full maryada in have guruji's saroop there ( i would know as I know 2 people who have spent time there) because of that reason the saroop should me moved . its hard as it is with regards keeping gutka sahibs so how do you think maharaj is there .. in closet, suitcase? who knows

however i feel there is a lack of parchar in jails and maybe some of the english talkers should start visiting.

[Singhshaster]

Fateh Jio,

I've spent some time in jail before I became gursikh and from my point of view there is no need to have maharaj in the jail. The jail i was in was cat B and as this is a cat d (open jail) then it is guaranteed to be flooded with drugs. Looking back now I remember how the granthi singh used to give everyone a gutka sahib with english translations to take back to the cell with you. He never told anyone how to keep satkaar of the gutka sahib. Also quite alot of the people that went sikh service used to smoke so they would have been smoking in the same cell with the gutka sahib.( maybe this is another issue that needs to be resolved.) But for the keeping of maharaj in jail is definitely not a suitable place. We need to work on getting Maharaj out of there a.s.a.p.

[Beginner]

Have Guru Ji in the prison only once per week, on the DAY that Satkaar takes place! That should solve it.

[singher23]

Too big a chance of beadbi. Too risky to keep Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji there.

[Panjab Da Sher]

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WJKK WJKF

The Sikh Council is named in the e-mail so perhaps I ought to provide an explanation about a month ago Jagjit Singh who is a lawyer from west midlands and one of the key people on the Satkar campaign (along with his brother in law from Hitchin )contacted me to request for support in contacting the Sikh Chaplain service on this issue.My colleague Balvinder Kaur spoke to Gagandeep Singh who advised her that Mr Chawla had visited the prison and was satisfied with the arrangements .I advised Jagjit Singh of the feed back and suggested that if remains concerned that it may be best for him to speak directly to Mr Chawla. This is the sum total of the Sikh Councils involvement.

Rgds

Gurmel Singh

On 21 Jun 2012

[Pyara]

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WJKK WJKF

The Sikh Council is named in the e-mail so perhaps I ought to provide an explanation about a month ago Jagjit Singh who is a lawyer from west midlands and one of the key people on the Satkar campaign (along with his brother in law from Hitchin )contacted me to request for support in contacting the Sikh Chaplain service on this issue.My colleague Balvinder Kaur spoke to Gagandeep Singh who advised her that Mr Chawla had visited the prison and was satisfied with the arrangements .I advised Jagjit Singh of the feed back and suggested that if remains concerned that it may be best for him to speak directly to Mr Chawla. This is the sum total of the Sikh Councils involvement.

Rgds

Gurmel Singh

On 21 Jun 2012

In response to the above Sikh Council UK communication.

In this case the subjective reference "satisfied with the arrangements" is too fuzzy to serve as a meaningful benchmark particularly in such a sensitive and emotive issue.

Seeing that the Sikh Council UK have given an official response to the issue then perhaps a deeper and perceptive communication in order to substantiate what “satisfied” means is deserved by the concerned Sangat. At least we will have some direction...