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Bhai Mohan Singh (Sas) Talking About Pakistani grooming gangs.

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I've watched up to 30 minutes of this video so far. It sees that the grooming issue is predominantly affecting the North in areas where there are high numbers of Mirpuris, like the Midlands, Lancashire and Yorkshire, as well as Luton.

The issue does not seem to affect London or the Home Counties so much.

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I'm from London. It does effect Sikhs here in a big way. Apnay just pretend it doesn't.

Thumbs up to ADMIN for finally making this thread a sticky....eventually......lol

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In the East London I grew up in, yes.

Don't know about Essex but it appears to be less (but you have to ask clued up long term residents there).

I know Pak guys from East London would go to Southall to 'pull' Sikh girls since the 80s. They were considered 'easy'.

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Were these Pak guys Mirpuris or Punjabis? If they were going to Southall to 'pull' these girls, were they just trying to date, or are you saying they wanted to groom them? Because there's a difference, right?

Also, out of interest, does anyone know what the attitude of UK-based Pathans and Bengalis is towards our community? Do they respect us, or do they consider Punjabi girls as fair game?

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They were mostly Panjabis from what I recall. and you are right to distinguish between grooming and 'dating', although the latter can sometimes be a precursor to the former. Some of these guys were just looking to get 'laid' and apneean had a reputation for being the easily talked into these things. When you look at it, our lot, in general, appear to be infinitely less conservative than Panjaban sullian. Go to any city bars, clubs in London and you'll see this for yourself.

Some of the girls that would get groomed would be what we used to call 'runaways'. Young 'asian' girls who had run away from home and had been housed in East London (they seemed to be mainly from the midlands or up north?) by social services/the police. Some of them claimed to come from abusive families and I don't doubt that in some cases this was true. But in some cases it was just a very strict father who wouldn't let them go out partying or out with friends and the usual stuff. Once some Paks got wind of this they would home in on the address. Paks have a VERY tight network with their minicab businesses, and when girls would go out in a cab, or come home tipsy from a party in a minicab or whatever, word would quickly spread. BTW, when I say 'groomed' here I mean as in having sex with multiple guys. Finishing with one guy and then moving onto his friend/cousin/uncle type thing.

Your last question about Pathan and Bengali attitudes is an interesting one. One thing apnay need to acknowledge is how sullay in general are much more insular and less forthcoming with opinions than big mouthed apnay. Whereas our lot try really hard to keep secrets away from each other (which become open secrets which everyone knows about - Sikh and nonSikh - in the end), sullay are very good at keeping things between themselves.

Funnily enough I've been speaking to some Pathaans and Bengalis recently and this topic came up. The impression I got from the Bengalis was that they generally considered all 'Indians' be they Panjabi or Gujerati as infinitely more westernised than their own society. Overall I didn't sense any hostility but I did get the impression that they thought we were 'lost' as a consequence of our being better integrated into white society.

Some Pak Pathaans appear to view us as almost comical, fun, dancing, laughing partying types. I think the Afghan Pathaans probably have a slightly better impression of us, possibly because they have yet to experience prolonged contact with Panjabi apnay?

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With the whole business of grooming etc, I realise that the victims, who are female almost always have more to lose than the perpetrators.

However, if some of apnay were able to get proof of these perpetrators' acts, and then inform their parents and community (or publicly 'shame' them if they try and keep it quiet), maybe we would see less of these things happening?

I can just imagine in the near future when the UK has many fourth and fifth generation Sikhs (most of whom would be Sikh in name only), that grooming would either increase or alternatively, relationships between Sikh girls and Muslim boys would just be accepted easily.

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On 8/7/2020 at 7:00 PM, Premi5 said:

Someone is downvoting some of the posts here. Wonder who it is... 

A coward with nothing better to do. Someone who clearly has been refuted many times and now, in a final act of intellectual bankruptcy, is down voting very old posts. People like this will never come out in the open, so they do silly things like this, thinking they have "won"🤣!

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