Nihang Dera Raid Nets Prostitution Ring

[Jonny101]

what kind of reform?

I think he meant a religious revival type movement in the panth. The last 17 years has seen a decline in the religiosity amongst the Sikhs. We need to come back to our roots.

[lsingh]

I think he meant a religious revival type movement in the panth. The last 17 years has seen a decline in the religiosity amongst the Sikhs. We need to come back to our roots.

Yes the Singh Sabha movement took off in the early part of the last centuary in response to this kind of thing. Gurdwaras had been taken over by Mahants who installed idols and smoked , drank and carried out other immoral practices in Gurdwaras. Thats when Singhs went to take back control of the Gurdwars under the Singh Sabha movement.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Gurdwara_Reform_Movement

[Wingz23]

this is messed up man!!... youve got enuff drugs, s**, voilence, rape and pain out there and what?? the FAKE nihangs are adding to it!!! DISGRACEFUL!!

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Yes the Singh Sabha movement took off in the early part of the last centuary in response to this kind of thing. Gurdwaras had been taken over by Mahants who installed idols and smoked , drank and carried out other immoral practices in Gurdwaras. Thats when Singhs went to take back control of the Gurdwars under the Singh Sabha movement.

http://www.sikhiwiki...Reform_Movement

If you mean a repeat of the Singh Sabha movement....then get ready for a conflict...all singh sabha did was bring in christian protestant influences into the panth...reform is good..only if we get closer to guru and puraatan khalsa maryada...if not...then forget it

[Jonny101]

If you mean a repeat of the Singh Sabha movement....then get ready for a conflict...all singh sabha did was bring in christian protestant influences into the panth...reform is good..only if we get closer to guru and puraatan khalsa maryada...if not...then forget it

That is not true. I have read books by Bhai Veer Singh Jee, Giani Ditt Singh Jee and no where have I found such christian influences. The Singh Sabha was a Sikh revival movement, not a Sikh reform movement.

[Singh559]

KhalistaniGunMan, bro, don't fall for nang propaganda . THe only person influenced by the Brits was teja singh bhasauria. Don't believe everything you're told.

It's because of GurSikhs around the time of the Singh Sabha Movement that Sikhi was able to survive another century. They fought to bring back the panth from manmat and out of sanatan Sikhi and these non-Sikhs in the UK are trying to bring back these elements in form of academics.

Most people don't know, but Attar Singh Mastuana, Bhai Randheer Singh, Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale were all a part of this reform movement.

Don't fall for propaganda that people make up bro.'

[Singh559]

If you mean a repeat of the Singh Sabha movement....then get ready for a conflict...all singh sabha did was bring in christian protestant influences into the panth...reform is good..only if we get closer to guru and puraatan khalsa maryada...if not...then forget it

The most interesting thing is this GT group backed by nangs has been able to finally start discrediting work of GurSikhs that helped save the Panth for a century. It is impressive indeed.

What's most impressive is they somehow have convinced people that christian influence was added and "puratan khalsa maryada" removal is worse than removing idols, tobacco, drugs, alcohol and naked dancing girls from Gurudwaras.

Another impressive thing is how these nangs have associated Puratan Khalsa Maryada with Christian influence and the removal of naked dancing girls, tobacco, drugs, idols and the pest mahants from Gurudwaras.

Puratan Khalsa Maryada wasn't discredited by any of the Singh Sabha movement, just more of propaganda spewed by nangs is that they bet their life that these Singhs (Attar Singh Mastuane, Bhai Randheer Singh, Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale, Bhai Veer Singh, Giani Ditt Singh) were all anti Khalsa maryada british raaj cronnies lool. They never use their specific names because it's easier to say Singh Sabha movement than point out exactly who in Singh Sabha movement was against Khalsa maryada? lol

Baba Gurbachan Singh said he didn't agree with some stuff that goes on at Hazoor Sahib but still respected the maryada. Don't get caught up in dogma and forget the essence of what Sikhi is.

Jaagde rehna Singhoo...jaagde rehna...

[KhalistaniGunMan]

KhalistaniGunMan, bro, don't fall for nang propaganda . THe only person influenced by the Brits was teja singh bhasauria. Don't believe everything you're told.

The Gt Golden Temple (shame on them for calling Sri Harmandir Sahib the gora word - Golden Temple) How ironic is it that these pseudo scholars are trying to get rid of "Angreej influence" and yet they use the word the angrej use - Golden temple. This group is trying to legitimize their nang agenda in the UK through pseudo academic means. Their agenda is in line with sanatan sikhi part of their agenda is to reinstate the caste system, say there are different "Samparde" when there is only one.

It's because of GurSikhs around the time of the Singh Sabha Movement that Sikhi was able to survive another century. They fought to bring back the panth from manmat and out of sanatan Sikhi and these non-Sikhs in the UK are trying to bring back these elements in form of academics.

Most people don't know, but Attar Singh Mastuana, Bhai Randheer Singh, Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale were all a part of this reform movement.

Don't fall for propaganda that people make up bro.'

singh sabha had good aspects but it went too far in its reform...where it stated deviating from puraatan tradition and rejecting and discarding views of early sikh scholars...

and im not a little kid..who needs to be told what to believe and what not to believe...my change of views came through my own research and study...so i should believe your propaganda over someone elses..what makes you so certain your right?..open your mind and stopping spitting out the same rhetoric over and over again....lol reinstate the caste system? really?..now whos falling for propaganda...

[KhalistaniGunMan]

The most interesting thing is this GT group backed by nangs has been able to finally start discrediting work of GurSikhs that helped save the Panth for a century. It is impressive indeed.

What's most impressive is they somehow have convinced people that christian influence was added and "puratan khalsa maryada" removal is worse than removing idols, tobacco, drugs, alcohol and naked dancing girls from Gurudwaras.

Another impressive thing is how these nangs have associated Puratan Khalsa Maryada with Christian influence and the removal of naked dancing girls, tobacco, drugs, idols and the pest mahants from Gurudwaras.

Puratan Khalsa Maryada wasn't discredited by any of the Singh Sabha movement, just more of propaganda spewed by nangs is that they bet their life that these Singhs (Attar Singh Mastuane, Bhai Randheer Singh, Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale, Bhai Veer Singh, Giani Ditt Singh) were all anti Khalsa maryada british raaj cronnies lool. They never use their specific names because it's easier to say Singh Sabha movement than point out exactly who in Singh Sabha movement was against Khalsa maryada? lol

Baba Gurbachan Singh said he didn't agree with some stuff that goes on at Hazoor Sahib but still respected the maryada. Don't get caught up in dogma and forget the essence of what Sikhi is.

Jaagde rehna Singhoo...jaagde rehna...

get a knowledgeable nihang singh to do vichaar sri sarbloh granth to you ...most your strongly held beliefs will be blown out the water....and when you refer to nangs...why do i get the feeling your refering to all nihang singhs?...chill out man

[lsingh]

The most interesting thing is this GT group backed by nangs has been able to finally start discrediting work of GurSikhs that helped save the Panth for a century. It is impressive indeed.

What's most impressive is they somehow have convinced people that christian influence was added and "puratan khalsa maryada" removal is worse than removing idols, tobacco, drugs, alcohol and naked dancing girls from Gurudwaras.

Another impressive thing is how these nangs have associated Puratan Khalsa Maryada with Christian influence and the removal of naked dancing girls, tobacco, drugs, idols and the pest mahants from Gurudwaras.

Puratan Khalsa Maryada wasn't discredited by any of the Singh Sabha movement, just more of propaganda spewed by nangs is that they bet their life that these Singhs (Attar Singh Mastuane, Bhai Randheer Singh, Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale, Bhai Veer Singh, Giani Ditt Singh) were all anti Khalsa maryada british raaj cronnies lool. They never use their specific names because it's easier to say Singh Sabha movement than point out exactly who in Singh Sabha movement was against Khalsa maryada? lol

Baba Gurbachan Singh said he didn't agree with some stuff that goes on at Hazoor Sahib but still respected the maryada. Don't get caught up in dogma and forget the essence of what Sikhi is.

Jaagde rehna Singhoo...jaagde rehna...

Its shocking how much effort is being put into the nang propaganda both direct and indirect. Gursikhs who laid down their lives and protected Sikhi are made out to be British influenced. If these people were British supporters why did the British carry out massacres such as Nankana Sahib to defend idol worshipping Mahants. Many Sikhs were killed by British police as they tried to free Gurdwaras from the Mahants.Unfortunately youngsters come under the influence of these nangs as they are not aware of their history.

The true Nihangs fought for the Sikh state and many fought to the death in the Sikh wars with the British up until 1849. After that their influence declined considerably and Mahants under the control of the British weakened Sikh institutions. It was the brave Sikhs of the Singh Sabha and reform movement that opposed British designs. The eventual capitulation of the Sikhs to these protesters does not mean that they supported them.

In fact I would like to know where the Nihangs have fought in any numbers against the oppressers of Sikhs in recent times, the question is always asked where are they in times of crisis.

http://en.wikipedia..../Akali_movement