Meditation Techniques

[N30S1NGH]

Here is the full katha of meditation video by sant waryam singh ji ratwara sahib posted in original post in this thread:

[luckysingh99]

Just got directed here from another similar and recent thread.

What is interesting is the breathing technique mentioned. -This is the 'wahe' on inward breath whilst bring navel in and 'guru' on outward breath whilst extending navel outward.

I can confirm that I have been practicing this since I started, although when I started I was infact taking 2 breaths in and 2 out.so the 'wahe' was actually broken into 'wa' and 'he' with one breath inward followed by a 2nd breath.

I can't remember exactly where I had learnt this but soon after I found that using the 'wahe' inward in one breath and 'guru' outward in one breath out was much better and more co-ordinated.

I don't exactly know what it is about this breathing that helps, but I know that Bhagat Kabir ji quotes this as reverse breathing in gurbani. From my own experience I know that when I didn't do this breathing, I didn't progress. So I have always just stuck wih it and I only need to concentrate or think about it when I first start the early couple of breaths.

I'm not sure if other members have tried a different technique and what their results were.

I also find that this breathing helps to produce the 'waheguru' vibrations as I call them. These vibrations can sometimes continue all day long and you can feel them eminating from everywhere. This only happens sometimes and usually after a long and very deep simran.

This gives me an intense urge to want to go into samadhi and just stay there if I can.

[taranbir5]

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

U GUYS WON'T BELIEVE MY FATHER WAS A MEDITATOR HIS TENTH DOOR WAS OPEN. BUT I NEVER SAW HIM DOING THESE KIND OF TECHNIQUE. "HARI KA JAN KAISA HO, HARI JAISA HO" SIKHS SHOULD FIRST GET CONTROL OF KAAM KROD MOH LOBH ABHIMAAN. JOOTH NINDA CHUGLI SHOULD BE KILLED AND BE PURE BY HEART IT WILL BE EASY FOR U TO CONCENTRATE ON HIS NAME. "WAHEGURU" MEANS WAH GURU UNTILL UNLESS CANNOT SAY WAHEGURU WITH THE SPIRIT OF WAH IN UR DAILY LIFE THERE IS NO SIMRAN.

[Koi]

U GUYS WON'T BELIEVE MY FATHER WAS A MEDITATOR HIS TENTH DOOR WAS OPEN. BUT I NEVER SAW HIM DOING THESE KIND OF TECHNIQUE. "HARI KA JAN KAISA HO, HARI JAISA HO" SIKHS SHOULD FIRST GET CONTROL OF KAAM KROD MOH LOBH ABHIMAAN. JOOTH NINDA CHUGLI SHOULD BE KILLED AND BE PURE BY HEART IT WILL BE EASY FOR U TO CONCENTRATE ON HIS NAME. "WAHEGURU" MEANS WAH GURU UNTILL UNLESS CANNOT SAY WAHEGURU WITH THE SPIRIT OF WAH IN UR DAILY LIFE THERE IS NO SIMRAN.

Yes, but this is done through sewa, katha, kirtan, paath and simran (jaap). Even if you do not say it with the "full spirit", it is better than not saying it at all.

[sunny_love_kirtan]

U GUYS WON'T BELIEVE MY FATHER WAS A MEDITATOR HIS TENTH DOOR WAS OPEN. BUT I NEVER SAW HIM DOING THESE KIND OF TECHNIQUE. "HARI KA JAN KAISA HO, HARI JAISA HO" SIKHS SHOULD FIRST GET CONTROL OF KAAM KROD MOH LOBH ABHIMAAN. JOOTH NINDA CHUGLI SHOULD BE KILLED AND BE PURE BY HEART IT WILL BE EASY FOR U TO CONCENTRATE ON HIS NAME. "WAHEGURU" MEANS WAH GURU UNTILL UNLESS CANNOT SAY WAHEGURU WITH THE SPIRIT OF WAH IN UR DAILY LIFE THERE IS NO SIMRAN.

this stage cannot be reached just like that.

controlling these things is after and simran if first.

Simran helps them go away.

and then by doing simran a stage comes when every vikaar is gone by gurparsad.

Maskeen ji said that ik shin moment comes after years of naam simran.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

this stage cannot be reached just like that.

controlling these things is after and simran if first.

Simran helps them go away.

and then by doing simran a stage comes when every vikaar is gone by gurparsad.

Maskeen ji said that ik shin moment comes after years of naam simran.

both can be done simultaneously simran and controlling your vikaar. Trying to control vikaar is can also be summed up as simran because you'r willing doing this, follow Guru's word. If with god blessing you start controlling vikaar and start living life in raaja(his will, it should not be taken as you should not work hard, work hard so that your family have good facilities) simran of limited period will get most out of you. My view.

[luckysingh99]

They should all be done together !!

Simran does not have to come first to help pave the way , but we should remember that naam japna is only one-third of a sikhs duty.

Naam japna, vand shakhna and kirat karna are ALL three essential do's that should be done simultaneously

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

simran is very vast concept in gurbani and have different types associated with it. Like Man(thinking/thought), Bachan(speaking), and Karam(deeds).

[tuhintuhin]

Sant Attar Singh ji Mastuana sahib used to recite "waheguru" with the steps he would take, while walking...like with one foot "wahe", with other "guru"....making it rythimic with the steps......

waheguru