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A reference from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji on violence

It could mean that violence isn't bad as long as it's not tyranny(strong against the weak):

: jy skqw skqy kau mwry qw min rosu n hoeI ]1] rhwau ] jae sakathaa sakathae ko maarae thaa man ros n hoee ||1|| rehaao || If some powerful man strikes out against another man, then no one feels any grief in their mind. ||1||Pause|| skqw sIhu mwry pY vgY KsmY sw pursweI ] sakathaa seehu maarae pai vagai khasamai saa purasaaee || But if a powerful tiger attacks a flock of sheep and kills them, then its master must answer for it.

This Shabad is by Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Aasaa on Pannaa 360

The whole shabad: http://www.sikhitoth...p?ShabadID=1408

Not2cool2argueji, thanks for the reference, much appreciated.

My understanding of this does not concur with yours. You have to read the whole Shabad and take the 2 lines in context of what is being said:

There was so much slaughter that the people screamed. Didn't You feel compassion, Lord?

O Creator Lord, You are the Master of all.

If some powerful man strikes out against another man, then no one feels any grief in their mind.

But if a powerful tiger attacks a flock of sheep and kills them, then its master must answer for it.

This priceless country has been laid waste and defiled by dogs, and no one pays any attention to the dead.

This is about people not being held to account for their violent actions. It shows hypocrisy in human society, which is still relevant today.

When (powerful) men kill and slaugher innocents, they are not held to account, people accept it "no one pays attention to the dead (people)", however when a tiger kills sheep (quite literally), people will demand to ask for action to be taken against the owner.

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This topic is meant to be an intellectual debate. If you have no references to support your viewpoints and don't take the time to read my post then it's not worth posting. Please take the time to read, find reference and form a rebuttal.

My questions were asked purely to clarify your positions on many topics that Sikhs believe are very easily to understand and which are very much related to your post. If you want to clarify then that is fine, but it seems you don't want to clarify what you have wrote.

So do answer the questions i asked and most importantly tell us whether you thinking Narsinghs story is myth or a true event?

If you are content with your understanding of Gurbani, then you should have no problem answering my questions.

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soora so pechaniye so lade deen ke het.. "DEEN" here is always taken as religion but it actually is "POOR AND DEPRIEVED". This world is tricky if you need to protect an ideology that to of religion u need to be armed. There are many religions and community vanished with rise of ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY. Relgion is the generator of most violent thougts.

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