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[jpsingh2]

Cannabis is not considered an intoxicant because it is not toxic! In fact your brain has has cannabinoid recepters pre made into it so if humanity turned out different we would have had more fulfilling diets. Anyways it still may be toxic if it is smoked as it usually is.

However Sikhs/Nihangs should be using cannabis as it is a hella amazing thing and we should ingest it through liquid or food (by baking) or even vaporizing should be considered acceptable by a modern Sikh!

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Cannabis is not considered an intoxicant because it is not toxic! In fact your brain has has cannabinoid recepters pre made into it so if humanity turned out different we would have had more fulfilling diets. Anyways it still may be toxic if it is smoked as it usually is.

However Sikhs/Nihangs should be using cannabis as it is a hella amazing thing and we should ingest it through liquid or food (by baking) or even vaporizing should be considered acceptable by a modern Sikh!

Great Post!...but watch the reformists attack you now

P.S And Thank You Moderators for Taking me off Quality Control...Much Appreciated!

[Jonny101]

Drinking Bhang is a deviation on the part of the Nihangs. Drinking Bhang is not a Guru created tradition. But over time this deviancy crept into the Sikh ranks. I suspect it must have originally been used after the battle to give to injured Sikh soldiers as a pain killer. But some may have gotten addicted to this and slowly Bhang turned into a permanent (yet deviant) tradition amongst the Nihangs. This is seen with many religious traditions through out the world where deviations and innovations creep into old religious orders and over time these very same deviations and innovations turn into fixed religious traditions. Bhang drinking amongst Nihangs is a classic example of this. Gurbani is the touchstone by which everything is measured. If something is against Gurmat it is safe to say it is not a Guru created tradition but an innovation or deviation.

During battle one needs to be alert not high on a drug. Just look at the best armies in the world today, soldiers are allowed to drink during their free time, but certainly not during battle because a drunk soldier would be a liability and a very clumsy shot.

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Drinking Bhang is a deviation on the part of the Nihangs. Drinking Bhang is not a Guru created tradition. But over time this deviancy crept into the Sikh ranks. I suspect it must have originally been used after the battle to give to injured Sikh soldiers as a pain killer. But some may have gotten addicted to this and slowly Bhang turned into a permanent (yet deviant) tradition amongst the Nihangs. This is seen with many religious traditions through out the world where deviations and innovations creep into old religious orders and over time these very same deviations and innovations turn into fixed religious traditions. Bhang drinking amongst Nihangs is a classic example of this. Gurbani is the touchstone by which everything is measured. If something is against Gurmat it is safe to say it is not a Guru created tradition but an innovation or deviation.

During battle one needs to be alert not high on a drug. Just look at the best armies in the world today, soldiers are allowed to drink during their free time, but certainly not during battle because a drunk soldier would be a liability and a very clumsy shot.

Another hillarious conspiracy theory bro....like the nihangs would deviate from the gurus path and traditions...thats insulting...they would fight and die for the maryada...but then they would change it?...doesnt make sense...just baseless conspiracy theories thrown at nihang singhs

[Shaheed Singh Khalsa]

Great Post!...but watch the reformists attack you now

P.S And Thank You Moderators for Taking me off Quality Control...Much Appreciated!

Tweedle dee and tweedle dumb!! Me thinks you fools have spent one too many nights at Shaka and the bass and g@nja his messed up your pea brains!

[Singhballer]

Listen to what Sant Baba Nihal Singh Ji has to say on Shaheedi Degh

Any debate should end here.

[KhalistaniGunMan]

During battle one needs to be alert not high on a drug. Just look at the best armies in the world today, soldiers are allowed to drink during their free time, but certainly not during battle because a drunk soldier would be a liability and a very clumsy shot.

bro you cant compare warfare of today with that of the ancient world...

you speak of drunk soldiers...but you seem to forget one of the most successful armies and empire in the world..the mongol empire...their warriros before battle would drink fermented mares milk...im not encouraging alcohol..but im saying each warrior culture had their own substances in their traditions to enhance their warrior capabilities

[panther]

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ ॥

May Maya Laxmi be helpful

ਉਸਤਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ॥

The Praise of Sri Maya Laxmi

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Can u please explain what Maya Laxmi you pray to KhalistaniGunMan?

[Guest]

Before talking about bhang etc and first become a brahmgayani then ask these questions.Most of these people asking want to pretend like hardcore nihangs or taksalis.

IF you need bhang Akaalpurkh maharaj will tell you to.

There are no mentions in gurbani or guru gobind Singh ji's banis etc talking about consumption of bhang.

So let's forget about about bhang for now okay.

[Jonny101]

bro you cant compare warfare of today with that of the ancient world...

you speak of drunk soldiers...but you seem to forget one of the most successful armies and empire in the world..the mongol empire...their warriros before battle would drink fermented mares milk...im not encouraging alcohol..but im saying each warrior culture had their own substances in their traditions to enhance their warrior capabilities

The Mongols often won before hand to hand fighting began because they would kill most of the opponent's army from a distance with their arrows. It's not the drug that wins the battle. It was superior battle tactics and professionalism introduced by Chingiz Khan that made the Mongols invincible. One needs to look no further than than India and see the example set by the Rajputs. The Rajput warriors were a very brave fighting army but before battle they would get drunk with Bhang. When facing the alert Pathans or Turks, the great Rajputs would often lose despite having superior numbers because Bhang would make them very reckless in the battle field. The alert Pathans would end up massacring the often drunk Rajputs and take possession of their widowed women. The only Hindu power to have successfully fought the Muslims were the Marathas and they were as alert as the Muslims i.e. free from Bhang.

If one were to take war the way it was fought during the olden times, still getting drunk would be a liability. When the British came to India, it was alert opponents that gave them the most trouble i.e. the Sikhs, Afghans, Tipu Sultan, Gurkhas. Where were the bhang drinking Rajputs? I have much respect for the Nihangs, but during the anglo Sikh wars the Nihangs could not cause a dent in the British army. It was the regular Sikh soldiers of the Lahore Darbar who gave the British most trouble. It seems innovations and deviations had crept into the Nihangs soon after Akali Phula Singh Jee. Even G.C. Smyth who participated in the Anglo Sikh wars against the Sikhs writes how the Nihangs after Akali Phula Singh Jee's Shaheedi had greatly degraded and were no longer the efficient fighting force they once were.