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Drinking Bhang is a deviation on the part of the Nihangs. Drinking Bhang is not a Guru created tradition. But over time this deviancy crept into the Sikh ranks. I suspect it must have originally been

No conspiracy veerji. Many innovations and deviations have crept into the Nihangs. Some amrit sanchaars of the Nihangs, they would administer a different Amrit to the so called lower castes. If this i

On a practical level...bhang was used on the battlefiled in puratan times to numb the pain from an injury and to ensure a speedy recovery due to it being high in anti-oxidants. It had a practical use

Okay....

After reading everyones thoughts on this, I got one question.....

For those that say it is okay to consume (even for those Akali singhs that live only that particular lifestyle)...

Explain this gurbani tuk from guru granth sahib ji...

kbIr BWg mwCulI surw pwin jo jo pRwnI KWih ]

qIrQ brq nym kIey qy sBY rswqil jWih ]233] Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine

- no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||

How can you justify ANYTHING, after reading this? If your guru is same as all sikhs, then you should not be consuming, OR saying it is okay for "SOME" singhs of particular background/caste/jatha to consume.... end of!

do you know you just quoted bhagat kabir jis bani?...you do know naqshabandi sufi musalman eat halal maas and some segments consume bhang for dhikr aswell? those specific tuks you provided are in reference to the rich who lived along the river ganga..and how they used to waste their lives in sensual pleasures and forgot worship of divine...bhagat kabir ji is warning them.

people like twisting gurbani to suit their own agenda...sri sarbloh granth instructs sikhs to practice JHATKA...and there is no contradiction from sri aad guru and sri sarbloh granth..we just lack the understanding

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Guru Nanak Dev Ji also says instead of using marijuana as an intoxicant, to instead use the fear of Waheguru as your intoxication.

Marijuana is an intoxicant. Guru Nanak Dev Ji makes this clear and if people doubt Guru Nanak Dev Ji, you can fall back on limited science and read research papers online that show Marijuana is indeed an intoxicant.

The APA has published that marijuana is in fact addictive in nature, something a lot of pot heads used to use as an argument saying it's not addictive.

I don't have a problem with using medicine, but there should be a reason. I agree with n30 veerji for the most part, perhaps this is an oral tradition, but if it is it had a specific purpose and that wasn't spirituality. It may have been a part of the kshatriya lifestyle and used as a practical means, now a days people abuse it and that much is clear. If you abuse anything, especially an intoxicant, the effects are horrible. Normal medicine we take such as cold medicine, pain killers or allergy medicine can be intoxicants, but if used for medicinal purposes to treat symptoms then it is okay.

The reason why a lot of people in the west are making a big deal out of this is because a lot of Sikhs in Punjab got addicted to this due to lack of education and claim it to be maryada to drink bhang all the time. Those who adhere to being Nihangs in the west and look up to certain individuals that they see as being true Nihangs find ways to justify taking bhang just for the sake of taking it.

We shouldn't really be having a discussion about this as it isn't important. Now a days we have medicine like acetaminophen and ibuprofen and for more serious injuries vicodin and anesthesia. The latter two can be abused and a person can become addicted if they don't respect what it's being used for.

Guru Sahiban included the Banis of Bhagats that were according to Gurmat so it doesn't matter what Bhagat Ji did, it's irrelevant to the Truth of Gurbani.

ਅਮਲ ਪਿਯਤ ਜੇ ਪੁਰਖ ਪਰੇ ਦਿਨ ਰੈਨਿ ਉਘਾਵਤ ॥ ਅਮਲ ਜੁ ਘਰੀ ਨ ਪਿਯਹਿ ਤਾਪ ਤਿਨ ਕਹ ਚੜਿ ਆਵਤ ॥ ਅਮਲ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਜੋ ਪੀਯੈ ਕਿਸੁ ਕਾਰਜ ਕੇ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ ਅਮਲ ਖਾਇ ਗੜ ਰਹੈ ਮ੍ਰਿਤਕ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਕੈ ਘਰ ਮਾਹੀ ॥੧੧॥

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The ones who use intoxicants feel sleepy all the time. And when they don’t get their dose then they feel feverish. And that person is good for nothing. He lies in his home like a dead person. (Charitropakhyan, Dasam Granth Sahib)

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Bhang for medicine is good.

Bhang for other reasons is a no no but what do I know?

Big nihang sant like baba mitt Singh never took bhang or jhatka and some did.What do we know.When people become brahmgyanis then god will give us the answer.We are know where compared to sants etc so drop this topic.

Can this topic just end?

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Veer Khalistani Gun Man Jee, you can try to justify marijuana any angle you like but it will still never be accepted in the Sikh faith. Nihangs claim they do it to uphold their warrior heritage. But that doesn't stand because in war you need to be alert. An alert sober warrior is always a better warrior than a drunken soldier. History is witness to this(Muslims vs Rajputs).

Then you try something new when you then try to justify it spiritually by bringing in the Naqshbandhis. This again doesn't stand. The Naqshbandis are the most strict sharia wise (rehetvaan) of all the Sufi orders. If some amongst them have now become deviants by consuming Bhang than that is not an example for us to follow, even the true Naqshbandis will consider such people as deviants.

We Sikhs follow the example of Bhagat Kabir Jee, Bhagat Naam Dev Jee, Dhru and Prahlaad Jee who were intoxicated by Naam Simran rather than some plant. In spirituality you need to be alert so you can focus on the object of your meditation. A drunkard can't focus in meditation. Ask any Sant Mahapursh and he will confirm this. When one becomes a Saadhak under the guidance of an experienced Mahapursh or Gursikh, the first thing the Mahapursh says is to stop taking drugs or anything that will make you drunk and thus lose focus in meditation.

If one wants to succeed in meditation it is wise for one to follow the sloks of Bhagat Kabir Jee who has written of obstacles in the form of certain foods which can hinder one's spiritual progress.

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I seriously cannot belive the stuff that is being posted on here. Just goes to show how strong Kaljug actually is.

My humble message to the youth who are looking for answers:

Do not take any notice of anything that is written on the internet - go to the original and ONLY source - Guroo Granth Sahib Jee and do Vichaar with elder Gursikhs.

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Yes, this topic has been discussed to death. It's better to close this now. Besides we don't want some gullible Sikh or non Sikh to read this and think taking drugs is okay in our religion.

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