I blame Jatts

[MrDoaba]

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[Sherdil]

Sherdil Veer Ji......\/ \/ \/

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Major LOL! What a little punk he is.

[akalinihang96]

Mr Mann your inferior complex is evident for everyone to see. As for your comments regarding sant ji it is obvious you have not listened to any of his speeches, if u can direct me to one speech where he makes demands or plans towards 'Khalistan' please show me! He was standing up for dharam and the rights of the people of Punjab regardless of caste and even religion. So do us all a favour & take your weak pathetic self somewhere else. Probabaly got bullied by jatts at school

[S1ngh]

I am anyway going to reply to Mann's original post.

- Jatts are not the highest or toughest - the British passed laws when ruling Punjab to favour Jatts. Thus dividing the Sikh quom

Agreed that jatts are not the highest as per Brahmin caste law system. However, We sikhs do not believe in such caste class crap. Jatts in fact are very brave and open heart if compared with regular city folks (BTW, i llived my whole indian life in city). I am not sure where you read that British India passed law favoring only Jatts. In fact British forces were strongly against jatts as they only got strong resistance from them.

- Jatts have ruined the political landscape of Punjab - the entire events leading upto and after Operation Bluestar were due to political incompetence of the Jatt leaders - who I may add dominate Punjabi / Sikh politics

Punjab is the only state in past where any low class (which still called untouchables in various parts of india) held high posts of political stage. Saying jatt politicians are bad if comparing politican with other caste is pure amatuer. I will give you recent example of Badal's Cabinet minister; Raineke who is from low class was involved in hefty corruption and criminal cases. Politicians regardless of castes are usually bad.

- The Gurus of SVA Soami (Radha Soami), Ram Rahim etc are all Jatt! - they are the enemies of the panth

Freedom of whatever you want to do. If they are preaching to gain low caste attendees then they are free to do that but we sikh kaum only draw line when they mingle in our sikh religious affairs.

- The Jathedars of Akal Takhat have been mostly Jatt have ruined the sanctity and supreme just being of the Sikh shrines and political affairs.

Current SGPC head is not jatt and he is managing the whole 800+ crores of annual budget of sikh kaum. Head of all Delhi based historical gurudwaras are managed by chandok in past and by sarna brothers and see how good they are doing by supporting anti-sikh elements. Again, you see all caste type people leading major sikh institutions and many of them are not doing it good.

- It was quoted somewhere that Bhindrawale promised that he would give the persons weight in gold to the individual who killed the Nirankari guru - Bhai Ranjit Singh (ex Jathedar of the Akal Takht) killed the nirankari guru but was ignored - not that he wanted the gold!

I don't know where you are getting the facts. Sant ji is one of the most respected sikh leader we have ever got since mid of 18th century and that is the fact.

- Jatts are actually now becoming a poor community in Punjab and outside of Punjab - so what are you guys bragging about in your songs? Others castes have and are doing so well without any help

I don't listen to punjabi songs so don't know what their lyrics are. However, i want you to read indian law about quota and reservation system.

- All punjabi films / songs are about Kethi / farming - this industry is finishing in Punjab so what is it you are bragging about? Jatts have been given so much help by means of free electric / water to run their farms. This type of benefit has never been extended to Chamars, Tharkans, Kumars, Rajputs, Chimbe, Nai etc but they are doing so much better!

I don't know how billions of people in india will survive if they don't support the farming industry of the north. Providing free energy for farmers to run motor is like throwing a penny to them. I am not sure which country you are from but in my country there are millions of billions federal grant given to farmers. Do you even have a clue the scrooge type arthiya system - the middle man who buy crops from farmers at pennies and sell them at high cost to govt and others. Punjabi farmers cannot sell direct to anyone without involvement of government. Do you think that is fair? and hanji, majority of arthiyaas are from non-jatt community. If non-jatts are doing good then it is good for them but hey brother, we should not be happy if others are doing well.. yeh?

- In terms of body and physique Jatts are no whay superior to other Punjabi Castes!

Maybe true but hey... its all thanks to the think tank government who are providing all drugs openly !

Every single Punjabi film that has ever come out - even the new ones are around Jatt families! why? Why so much importance on Jatts? What about the rest of us?

By above, so you are not mann?

When you are religious person or a person who is seriously trying to live life as per sikh code of conduct then surnames does not matter. It is okay to be proud of your community but make sure that it doesn't break any sikh code of conduct. Sikhi is 100% against Class/caste system. Never ever judge other person because of his last name. pre-judgement is ignorance.

[13Mirch]

There we go again when the rage dies down then the Jatts get the heat. When they react everyone cries. I am sure the <banned word filter activated> who started this thread believes in Caste himself. Look son if Jatts smashed u not our problem, urs and theirs. Fools like u come onto such forums just to start off a verbal battle on the basis of caste. If u really feel that insecure about jatts than go onto a Jatt forum or lodge a complaint with the Indian army asking them why they have a Jatt regiment. I also suggest doing something about that inferiority complex u have. It is very dominant in u.

[Koi]

It's wrong to blame jatts for all the problems. I blame the whole bloody punjabi tribal system which shared by all the punjabi castes..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely agree!!!

"I am a Jatt, I am a Tarkhan, I am a Chamar etc etc ... blah blah blah ..."

Pehlaa Bandaa Taa Banja!

[Wingz23]

Woah there really is no other post like this

[kullykhalsa]

blame it on the jatt "it wasnt me"

[S4NGH]

Mann sahib, what a bakwaas post!

Whats the point in this daft post?! Creating drifts between people. Bringing up baseless cr*p about castes.

Note to ADMIN, why not ban all caste based posts?

One minute we're saying theres no caste, the next your blaming Sikhs of a certain caste for failures etc??

[Jangal Da]

Ditto above - The original post is not really material you would expect on a Sikh forum. I've watched this post through the day and brothers have responded with fitting replies. Admin ought to really have closed the post a while back.