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Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-20128048

29 October 2012 Last updated at 14:52 ET

'Hate crime' attack on Sikh family home on wedding day

Police say they are treating an attack on the home of a Sikh family whose daughter was about to marry a man from a different religion as a hate crime.

The door of the terrace house in Coventry was damaged and its windows were smashed early on Saturday.

The family members, who asked not to be named, said they were targeted because a daughter was due to marry a Hindu man in a Sikh temple later that day.

The wedding later went ahead peacefully, as planned.

The family said they had been threatened in the weeks leading up to the wedding by some "hardline" Sikhs, who were unhappy about non-Sikhs getting married in one of the religion's temples, known as gurdwaras.

They said the people had also made aggressive calls to the gurdwara where the wedding was due to take place.

'Very frightening'

The father of the family told BBC Asian Network that at about 01:30 BST on Saturday he heard the glass in the house's front windows shatter.

He said: "It went 'bang, bang, bang'. It was very frightening."

The family were given a police escort to and from the gurdwara for the wedding.

The bride's older sister said the family had been put through "some quite horrendous things" in the run-up to the wedding.

"Mixed faith marriages have been going on from the start," she said."What's the problem now?"

In a statement, West Midlands Police said: "Police are investigating the criminal damage as a hate crime and are treating this as a priority.

"Police have had a presence at the address over the weekend and are continuing to support the family."

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That's right...now sikhs cannot claim abroad they were victims of hate crime when we have our own fuddus committing hate crimes against our own. I am sorry for harsh language but every advait khalsa of sri guru gobind singh ji should be outraged at these mobs, you give these guys arm, they want the whole leg...i don't care which jatha/samparda/group they belong to..what is wrong is wrong..!!!!!

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What is the problem if a person from non so called Sikh background meets the criteria of the Sandesh set by Akal takhat Ie has Singh/kaur in name on legal docs accepts Sikhism etc. has an anand karaj, they will actually most likely look into sikhi.

Whereas most weddings from Sikh background couples don't in some cases have a clue about sikhi or Singh/kaur in their name . Just cos there from punjabi Sikh background there is no issue.

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smashing windows is wrong, but was is wrong with these tity gurdwara committees and tity sikh families. Just because a hindu has read a wikipedia page about sikhism, some how it is justifiable to break the 38th hukam of the Great King Satguru Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj, f-kin sikhs

Mrsingh12,

The sheer paradox of your argument beggers belief. After I pointed out that 9 out of 10 Sikh-Sikh weddings I have attended, (and thats being optimistic) do not satisfy hukam 38, you decide to tell me that as long as "God's Sikhi" is being practised then somehow according to you at least 'half of the hukam' is being followed. Had it not occured to you that hukam 14 states that "do not start married life without anand karaj" and also hukam 47 "life as a keshadhari Sikh"? Therefore, which type of "God's Sikhi" were you refering to? According to hukam 47, a mona wouldn't suffice anyway. The fact is, 9 out of 10 Sikh-Sikh weddings will not satisfy hukam 38 by any stretch of the imagination. I am flabbergasted that it has taken you until 2012 to realise that the 38th hukam is being dishonoured when it has been happening for the past 100 years or so.

Even if the hindu has only "read a page on wikipedia about Sikhism", it's still volumes of knowledge when compared to the thugs who smash a window and don't even have the guts to stand outside and say "here I am, I am accountable for my actions" like any honourable Sikh would have done. No, these thick criminal thugs have probably never even read that page on wikipedia on Sikhism themselves. Because if they had, they would have concluded that the pen is mightier than the sword and that rather than run away, all Sikhs are held accountable for their actions, right or wrong.

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i would get the tone, i only found out until a few months ago that the 52 hukams even existed. Why dont you make your position clear, are you for or against inter-faith? If for, prove its legitimacy in sikh faith. I cant comment on why a person lives a life they do, but clearly being brought up in some kind of sikh surrounding, in a sikh family, will be a more palatable idea when it comes to marriage. A sikh-sikh wedding, even if the two sikhs don't follow the strict code of conduct, will certainly make the spiritual journey more easier than a sikh-hindu/muslim wedding.

I don't know why you have written the last five lines, as I have already condemned any window smashing in this incident.

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I neither need nor want to read anything written on the 4 pages here. Fact of the matter is this:

If I, as a non Muslim, wanted to get married to a Muslim girl in a mosque.........I would not be allowed to do so.

If I, as a Sikh, wanted to get married in a Church or Cathedral.............I would not be allowed to do so.

If I wanted to get married in a Jewish Synagogue, the temple officials would first instigate a 4 month investigation into my mothers, mother's mothers, and mother's mother's mother's Jewishness before letting me do so.

Which brings us to us and our Sikh Gurdwaras. We have no extremist or unreasonable rule. We have the same rule as every church, mosque and synagogue in the world. The only difference is that we have, in control of our places of worship, uneducated idiots that know less about Sikhism than the average junior school child that has done a half term study of Sikhism.

It is written and prescribed that a non-Sikh cannot marry in a Gurdwara.....but still they do not listen.

We have politely said that a non-Sikh cannot marry in a Gurdwara.....but still they do not listen.

We have politely shouted to those hard of hearing that a non-Sikh cannot marry in a Gurdwara.....but still they do not listen.

Tell me....when prescription, talking and even shouting has not worked what alternative is there to the smashing of windows ? The only alternative is to take a dump on Sikhism and let them make a mockery of it.

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Firstly can we at least say that there is no proof that the smashed window had anything to do with the wedding?

Why do we think and believe the worst? I don't know any Amritdhari that would smash a window because some family want to broadcast their besharm for the world to know by having an Anand Karaj. So let's lay off the fundo hate mob comments. From what I heard of the radio show, the girl's sister seems to the typical dumbo involved in these kinds of situations. You can tell what knowledge her family gave her about Sikhi and you can understand why her sister is marrying some Hindu if that is the way the family have raised them. Her attitude was typical, who are the 'extremists' to stop her sister having her 'dream' wedding ceremony! This is the attitude that the people fighting to implement the Akal Takht hukumnama are facing. I am surprised that she didn't come up with a death threat as is usual for people who know their position is untenable from the Sikhi point of view but want to buttress their position by playing the victim.

To be honest, I feel she is playing ignorant when she says that the Gurdwara never told her that her sister couldn't have an Anand Karaj. With all the publicity that happened when the incident took place in Swindon then I do not believe that her family didn't know about the Hukumnama.

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Firstly can we at least say that there is no proof that the smashed window had anything to do with the wedding?

Why do we think and believe the worst? I don't know any Amritdhari that would smash a window because some family want to broadcast their besharm for the world to know by having an Anand Karaj. So let's lay off the fundo hate mob comments. From what I heard of the radio show, the girl's sister seems to the typical dumbo involved in these kinds of situations. You can tell what knowledge her family gave her about Sikhi and you can understand why her sister is marrying some Hindu if that is the way the family have raised them. Her attitude was typical, who are the 'extremists' to stop her sister having her 'dream' wedding ceremony! This is the attitude that the people fighting to implement the Akal Takht hukumnama are facing. I am surprised that she didn't come up with a death threat as is usual for people who know their position is untenable from the Sikhi point of view but want to buttress their position by playing the victim.

To be honest, I feel she is playing ignorant when she says that the Gurdwara never told her that her sister couldn't have an Anand Karaj. With all the publicity that happened when the incident took place in Swindon then I do not believe that her family didn't know about the Hukumnama.

I agree, who knows who did it? Could have been a family feud for all we know and there are plenty of those. Maybe some of their own relatives objected? Could have been ordinary hooligans etc.

What we need to be careful of is that as we saw in the Brar media coverage there are a few elements usually the old Communists and Congress types that are trying to stir up trouble for the Sikhs by labelling them as extremists on the orders of their masters. This happens a lot in Canada where the Sikhs are labelled extremists as the media was not challenged at early stages . The Gurdwara should follow the Sikh marayada and we should not get caught up in a trap to label as extremists.

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