Shastarvidiya - In West Midlands ?

[Guru_Da_Chella]

Not this again, why are people willing to do internet prachar but not willing to show up and have a chat about it? nindo nindo...

[taran0]

why can't you publish(make public) the details

it seems like this challenge is made as hard as possible, just tell us the rules? and we will come

how hard can that be?, or have these things never been though out properly? or you just don't know?

i dont even think Nidar has thought of these answers?

what do you think is guna happen if i turn up, im guna ask the same questions...... he will have to answer then i will leave.....

why not just give us the answers, why all the privacy, why does the website not change when it is proven wrong? why does everythign have to be done in a way so that it is always private ?

we want the world to know.....

[chatanga]

This board is nothing but a platform for breeding paranoia, promoting slander and character assasination, where truth is silenced and lies are allowed to be spread. This attitude will never create Sikhs of good character, tolerance and moral good standing, nothing but hatred and fear is being promoted, the complete opposite of the Satgurus ideology.

did you not see the same in some of Niddar Singh Nihangs website(s)<

All you are doing is riling the masses against him with lies and slander.

as above.

[Shastar Man]

wjkk wjkf,

The shastar vidiya taught is done in an compliant manner, so when it really kicks off it will not be there for you. Didn't one of Niddars

students get battered recdently? (they tried to kick him out the akhara) because he proved that it don't work, i am pretty sure i read that he said in his own words 'i couldnt remember the techniques taught'. In a real situation you will get a log jam because of adrenaline, only the big simple techniques will work.

There will never be a hadh thor challenge, simply because niddar will not accept it, also if he gets beaten - what face will he show his cheley????

I have heard a few people say that 'i will go and learn the vidiya only' what crap!!! the brain washing goes hand in hand!

Is he out of sheperds bush gurdwara yet?

wjkk wjkf

[Mann-Sahib]

Hi guys

How can we support Niddar Nang when he clearly describes himself as a Hindu - Sikh? Whats one of those? In addition to that, I have heard from many of his ex-members that Niddar Nang propogates the caste system - he does not spare or touch so called lower caste opponents in his training! What kind of crap is that! Tarun I can bring you proof of this if you need!

In addition to this if Shastar Vidiya is so brilliant how come India has been raided and plundered by every major power in the world? Why was'nt Shastir Vidiya able to resist and defeat the Spanish, Portuguese, British Mughals, Iranians, Turks etc.... Its all a load of BS! Shastir Vidiya is a load of BS! Its also a very loose term, it just means weapons martial art in Hindi! Rajputs, Marathas all fell only the Sikhs reigned! And no it was not cause of this so called Shastir Vidiya BS!

What is deeply intriguing is that this Niddar Nang who has Hindutva motives is so easliy gaining popularity and support amongst fellow Sikhs! Are we so stupid? This is the very reason that our Panth does not go forward, our people are stupid!

[taran0]

Nidars followers keep going on about the art but what about the following information...... posted up here today

It would really upset me off if in 100 years time if someone came up and started saying that I was part of the "Handsworth Pindu So Solid Crew" when i don't even like rap music.

Nidar betrays the memory of his Grandmaster Baba Giana Singh

Posted on November 22, 2012

Baba Giana Singh, Noted Grandmaster of ShastarVidiya

Nidar on his website claims lineage from Baba Giana Singh, among others, a noted ShastarVidiya Master who according to Baba Santa Singh, taught many thousands of Singhs how to fight at Akali Phoola Singh Burj.

Time and time again Nidar, on his website, falsey attributes his “Sanatan Hindu Sikh Shastar Vidiya” label to Baba Giana Singh.

here is the proof

www.<banned site filter activated>/technique16.jsp

www.<banned site filter activated>/technique19.jsp

And he does the same thign on this page www.<banned site filter activated>/akhara.jsp He makes it sound like Baba Giana Singh endorsed the “Sanatan Hindu Shiv Akhara” or was a member of it.

The horrifying thing is, Baba Giana Singh ji wrote a book called Shastar Vidiya and it was published by Budha Dal Printing Press under Baba Santa Singh Ji. The disturbing revelation is that Baba Giana Singh never mentions the words “Snatan, Hindu, Shiv Akhara” throughout the whole book.

Baba Giana Singh jis Pustak that never mentions the words “Sanatan Hindu ShivAkhara”

Now I may be dyslexic and I know I can’t spell, but im not stupid enough to ignore the fact that this charlatan(Surjeet Singh Sains – Nidar), is adding his own words to history and legitimising his own MATT(Sanatan Hindu ideology) by using the Chardi Klaa Akali NIhang Singhs Shastar Vidiya, Baba Giana Singh and the original Ranjit Akhara as a stepping stone.

If I was a Nihang I would be well upset at this blatant misrepresentation. It is a travesty and betrayal to Baba Giana Singh to add words to his name that he never beleived in or used in his lifetime.

[N30S1NGH]

That was great find taran veer ji, any chance where can we find above book - shastar vidya by baba giana singh ji ? can sevadar prabhjot singh perhaps can put it online?

That book above by baba giana singh ji- singlehandly closes all the debate regarding terminology used..!!!

[Shaheed Singh Khalsa]

Turn up to the Akhara and we will go from there.

Gurfateh

Why not answer the man's valid questions?

[Singh559]

My god, i really want that book!

Akali Phoola Singh (if I could choose a favorite) would be my favorite shaheed Singh. I feel so lame saying "favorite" though because all Shaheed Sikhs are equal!

[Singh559]

I'm assuming this book was compiled by Santa Singh with knowledge of previous great jathedars?