kaam help

[13Mirch]

You said he stays with room mates, now he stays with parents?

I said bedrooms:

"No privacy. Thats a good suggestion. Problem is there are only two other people in the house with him and the house is 2 bedroom. Any suggestions? He really hates doing it. "

Aren't mum dad two people?

[VanHelsingh]

I said bedrooms:

"No privacy. Thats a good suggestion. Problem is there are only two other people in the house with him and the house is 2 bedroom. Any suggestions? He really hates doing it. "

Aren't mum dad two people?

[Guest]

lol caught ya red handed!

[Mehtab Singh]

I said bedrooms:

"No privacy. Thats a good suggestion. Problem is there are only two other people in the house with him and the house is 2 bedroom. Any suggestions? He really hates doing it. "

Aren't mum dad two people?

Hmmmm, I am sure it will be embarrassing with parents around. But he can write it on a piece of paper and stick it on a wall.

Something like...

[13Mirch]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

[Guest]

Hmmmm, I am sure it will be embarrassing with parents around. But he can write it on a piece of paper and stick it on a wall.

Something like...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[ladli-fauj]

I hesitated many times in telling all this and putting it together so the op BETTER read it

to master something one must know it...experienced it....to master kaam you must try to udnerstand it, a man forgets someones voice after a certain amount of time, love for one dies sometimes over time, the human is dying every second, everyday we are not only growing bigger we are also growing smaller, perishing, fading away, kaal will eat us, first kaal turns its face toward birth then once it has given birth it turns its face toward death, but let me tell u, a human dies kaam never dies..kaam will cause another birth, kaam was in the mind..a man may get old but kaamna never leaves..it has to be understood and if you young person does not fight against it...try to understand it, then sorry to say he will die a kaami.....kaam is your rom rom every part of your body is filled with kaam, kaam is the main shakti, out of kaam comes all life...let me tell you one thing, poison and nectar dwell together in the same place...

ਮੈਲਾਗਰ ਬੇਰ੍ਹੇ ਹੈ ਭੁਇਅੰਗਾ ॥

mailaagar baerhae hai bhueiangaa ||

The snakes encircle the sandalwood trees.

ਬਿਖੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਬਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਸੰਗਾ ॥੨॥

bikh anmrith basehi eik sangaa ||2||

Poison and nectar dwell there together. ||2|| (Ang 525, SGGS Ji)

Poison and Nectar dwell in the same place together. There is no distance separating poison and Amrit. Or one can say it like this: Jo Amrit hai oh zair ho sakda hai, te jo zair hai oh amrit ho sakda hai. This metaphor can be used to descirbe many truths, events etc in life.

What is amrit (nectar) can be turned into zair (poison), and what is poison can be turned into nectar,

It the same, but how it is used, some us it as nectur, to some its poison, but how you view it just different.

Jo Zehar-e-halaa Hall hai wohi amrit hai naadaan,

Maaloom nahi tujh ko yeh hein andaaz peene kay.

If one has learnt the art of living, it is amrit otherwise that same life is nothing but poison

lets give some examples, grapes, sugarcane, berries, all their juice and the juice of many more is nectur, amrit it is a creation, but when we mix it add other chemicals which are created by the lord it becomes accepted poison for many, and then there are those who don't accept it as such because for them it is their accepted nectur. But just before it was nectur really, the rass in the grapes etc was amrit da rass now its poison.

Poison can be turned into nectur, many medicines have rat poison, snake poison, Sankheeya, a type of stone, is essentially a poison but Ayurvedic Vaids destroy it and turn it into something called Kushtaa, a form of medicine that is used to cure hundreds of various ailments.

Many cloth contain the rass of Mauriuana plants but those cloth shelter people, at the same time it contains particles from a plant considered poison.

Many things in life which once we thought as nectsr or treated as such even if it was a way of looking at things could now be poison

now to understand kaam you must first understand the world and understand that jo manukh nu dekhai dinda oh kuch vini te jo soch reya oh vi kuch vini--what we think of the world and see it as is nothing as that is not the reality, much actvity is happening, there is a anhaad naad, vibrations, geet, a light, a prakash jot of waheguru, anhad rass, much is happening that the person can not explain your debh drishti has to open full, your 3rd eye, your eyes have not changed yet..waheguru is in every particle in every cell, rom rom the lord is prevaiding, all the vibrations in your body is the lords voice, the lord has been talking and you never recognized the lord, didnt see the lord, change your eyes slowly slowly you will recognize that ik onkar, nothing else every existed it is all the lord, that one light, he is the enemy, you and me...you really need to read baani and how guru arjun dev ji says that when the persons forgets that there is you and me and there are others then enemity dies and there is only that 1 left....baani begins with ik onkar because that was the whole purpose the only thing that mattered

if a hundred saints are sitting together there will be 1 answer, one talk, one truth but if two moorakhs are sitting together there will be two answers, one will say he is right and the other will say he is right (soh sant behte hon te vichar ik hovay ga, sach ik hovay ga, gall iko hovay gi... doh moorakh behte hon te vichar doh hon ge, gallan doh hon giya chagarda domay paseyo hovay ga) thats why its said soh siane (wise ones) iko matt moorakh apo apni........what im saying is understand the lord is the only 1 that exists You are the one who teaches the techniques of Yoga to the Yogis. You clash with the demons and vanquish them.

ਤੁਹੀ ਜੋਗਣੀ ਖੱਪਰ ਭਰਣੀ ਅਦੋਖੰ ॥ ਰਕਤ ਬੀਜ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਣ ਕੋ ਪਕੜ ਸੋਖੰ ॥

You are the one who drinks from the bowl, the blood of the demons and is a saviour of your devotees. You are the one who dried up the blood of Rakat Beej [a demon].

ਤੁਹੀ ਜਲ ਥਲੇ ਪਰਬਤੇ ਗਿਰਿ ਨਿਵਾਸੀ ॥ ਤੁਹੀ ਸਭ ਘਟਨ ਨਿਰਾਲਮ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸੀ ॥

You reisde in oceans, earth and mountains. You are self-radiant in all matter.

ਤੁਹੀ ਦੁਸਟ ਦਾਹਿਨ ਤੁਹੀ ਸਰਬ ਪਾਲੀ ॥ ਤੁਹੀ ਬ੍ਰਿਛ ਪੁਹਿਪਾ ਤੁਹੀ ਆਪ ਮਾਲੀ ॥

You are the one who destroys the evil and takes motherly care of all. You are the plant and you are the flower and you are the gardener who tends to it.

ਤੁਹੀ ਵਿਸਵ ਭਰਣੀ ਤੁਹੀ ਜਗ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸੀ ॥ ਤੁਹੀ ਅਲਖ ਬਰਣੀ ਤੁਹੀ ਭੁ ਅਕਾਸੀ ॥

You are the nourisher of the universe and your radiance is apparent all over. You are the invisible power, you are infinite and you are the earth and firmament. -Sri Dasam Granth

please go to youtuve read and type in akaal ustat sikh prayer

ok so once hopefully youve understood waheguru is the atom, the cell, the essence of all learning, waheguru is the essentially shakti which is prakash the essentially air we breathe, guru gobind singh ji says anek hai fir ek hai waheguru is many and at the same time as one

waheguru has a sargun saroop, a manifested saroop, the palki sahib, paper etc and physcial manifestation that waheguru manifests into then wahreguru also has a nirgun saroop non manifast the inner invisable shakti we cannot see but waheguru is prakash braajmaan and present....understanding and finding the lord is the purpose of coming on this jaggat and it can happen by reading and listning and vicharing the baani of guru granth sahib, sri dasam granth, sri sarbloh granth....... Je mai sargun de saroop vich dekhda hey akaal purakh teriya hazara akha ne koi ginti nahi, nira jaal kar rahieya ne ''joban ke jaal hou(n) ki kaal hu(n) ke kaal hou(n)-Sri Dasam Granth--har akh teri, tuhi phaard phaard ke vekh reha, par je mai nirgun saroop vich dekhda teri ik vi akh nahi, tu akhan toh bina ah

now i want you to listen to this from 28:00 min onward just listin to whole thing, there are 12 parts i think to kirtan sohila katha listen to them all..... maskeen ji says "Waheguru toh ek jot hai, parkash hai, anhaad naad hai viapic hai...Jis din jaggat diya tahmaam awaaja toh dhiaan ik paaseh hunda eh te fir banda ous sunn di awaaj nu sun da eh jeenu akheya jandeya paratma di awaaj, ous nu akheya geya anhaad naad"

now hopegully once listining indephtly to that you have realized waheguru is in the vibrations which include the vibrations you feel during your kaami thoughts the only problm came is that when you felt the vibrations, heard them with your ears, (even the deaf can hear the naad)....its the lord speaking, if your drishti oepns more youll start hearing waheguru, everytime you have vibrrations in you thats the lords geet, kushi de geet the lord was always present but the day we opened our eyes coming out of wombs and seeign the jaggs tamasha we forgot it we stopped hearing, and turned our attention completely somewhere else

the only way to break kaami thoughts is to turn the kamm rass in naam rass realize, open your third eye and remember the lord, hear him feel wahegurs existance, get your mind out the gutter and reach to the real truth, it was only your dirty thought that used that kaam energy in your body for dirty actions...kaam energy your seema is your energy and it builds with yur jeevan and you must use that energy for better purposes because if its not if your energy isnt fullfilled how you wish it will turn into krodh, and much more, you will start to get angry until it is fullfilled...dont loose this energy by wasting it and masturbating, use it for your spirtual jeevan, reocognize its power, after all its creates life, we need to be mature its the reason why we have all these ppl asking questions cuzz we keep kaam out of our talks and hide thr truth about it.....so everytime you feel vibrations dont think of women etc or dirty thoughts realize the truth and the lord prevading and open your eyes to reality

please watch this video for more on convertin kaam rass into naam rass watch all parts to understand

now i mentioned amrit (nectar) and zair (posion) dwell together let me expand on that ...guru gobind singh ji says ''khanda prithmai saaj ke'' the lord created the double edged sword now that is a metaphor we is used in everything in life, everything in life is posion and nectar and two ends of a sword...let me expand, life is both sweet, good, but it is also harsh, posion...rang hassay rang rovay.......even kaam is a double edged sword, the vibrations are there, but you can either take the energy the jot and use it for spirtual higher purposes or it can also destroy your life but its one and the same, see the double edged sword, waheguru is the farest but at the same time wahegur is the closest......

Before creating the world God Created a double edged sword this metaphore is what eveything in life is based on. Life it self is also a double edged sword, life is both sweet, nectar, amrit and at the same time it is posion, hard, hurtful. Some people have turned their life and family into a nehark da khaarda a ground of hell and some have turned it into nectar. Something which once was nectar for us amrit could now be posion, ruining us, bad for us and unwanted, but just before it was posion. Everything is in example of double edged sword Guru Gobind Singh Ji writes Khanda Primathe Saaj ke God created the double edged sword before creating the world. A caterpillar all its life eats, eats, eats, indulges its life in maya (maya does not only mean money, maya is a energy existing) without thinking it keeps on eating like crazy until it reaches a point it can't eat anymore. Caterpillars have been called eating monsters, and evntually their eating causes them to shed their skin, when they have eaten too much. After having its skin shed many times the caterpillar then does something different.

Some of their ''butterfly'' features inside start to form, arise, and develop. Then the caterpillar goes into a phase change, it goes through deep meditation. It becomes 'chrysalis' is it turns into a hard form, forming a hard case. Although the chrysalis appears to be motionless, inside tremendous activity is taking place. The caterpillar anatomy is being chemically disassembled and reconstructed into the adult butterfly. When the butterfly is ready to hatch out it will release some hormones that soften the chrysalis shell.

After a inner changing process the caterpillar after going through a phase of rebirth, redemption, inner change and fighting a battle emerges to become a butterfly. And wherever this butterfly goes, whatever it touches it gives nectar amrit to flowers and whatever it interacts with. Its life becomes nectar, it gives nectar. (see the double edged sword) just once before it was taking, stuck in maya , eating, now it was giving nectar, the caterpillar transformed into a butterfly. And in age in our lives are based around constant in-taking, consumption, we need to become butterflys and can learn something from the journey of even the smallest of creatures the caterpillar. If we don't, the Earth can only give so much, kirpa kari ham par jagg Matta.

The shell hardening 'chrysalis' For a spirtual jeevan it is the same to make oneself strong and fight, hor koi chaara nahi, the inner battle must be fought, kaam, lobh, moh, hankaar will never die there were in the mind, instead they will cause a rebirth.

kabeer sathgur sooramae baahiaa baan jo ek ||

Kabeer, the True Guru, the Spiritual Warrior, has shot me with His Arrow.

laagath hee bhue gir pariaa paraa karaejae shhaek ||194||

As soon as it struck me, I fell to the ground,with my kaleja (heart) being shaeked ||194

ਕੁੰਡਲਨੀ ਸੁਰਝੀ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਪਰਮਾਨੰਦ ਗੁਰੂ ਮੁਖਿ ਮਚਾ ॥

kunddalanee surajhee sathasangath paramaanandh guroo mukh machaa ||

The Kundalini rises in the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation; through the Word of the Guru, they enjoy the Lord of Supreme Bliss. (Ang 1402, SGGS Ji)

The Bhatts have mentioned Kundalini in Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. This discourse will talk about the meaning of Kundalini and how it is awakened, as explained by Gurbani.

Kundalini, also known as the energy of life or the energy of the awakened, lies in a coiled form in the region just below the navel. The name 'Kunalini' comes from the coiled state of this energy. This energy sleeps in a coil just like a snake sleeps wrapped up. Snake Charmers often play 'Been' (a type of wind instrument) to awaken the coiled up snake. The snake 'hears' the sound of the been, wakes and raises its head upwards. The real energy of life is just like such a snake it sleeps in a coil with its head downwards. When this energy is awakened by Jap and Tapp, it rises upwards, penetrates and crosses a row of 6 Chakras, finally reaching the 'Agya Chakra', the supreme state of conciousness and bliss. This Kundalini energy rises with naam rass, Ram rass, and if it starts going downwards, it is because of kaam rass. So, because of kaam rass, flow of life flows downwards, while its upward flow is all due to naam rass. It is this naam rass, the Waheguru Mantra, the Gurbani, that awakens the energy and makes it rise upwards.

The first chakra right above the navel is called the 'Mool-Adhaar'. The second chakra above it is the 'Sav-Dishtaan'. Above Sav-Dishtaan chakra, there lies the third chakra called the 'Manipur'. The fourth chakra above it is called 'Aahat-Anaahat' chakra. When the awakned energy reaches the 'Kanth' and crosses it, the chakra at the Kanth is called 'Vishudhh'. And the last chakra out of all the chakras is the 'Agya Chakra'. These chakras can be thought of as the stages in the path of spirituality that the energy must cross in order to reach the supreme state of bliss.

There is a strong desire in human beings to achieve that supreme bliss. However, there is rass downwards, and there is rass upwards there is rass for the form; and there is rass for the formless.

Just like water flows downwards automatically, human energy also automatically flows downwards. One does not need any motivation to become arrogant, greedy, kaami, dishonest; it happens automatically. But, efforts are required if one has the desire to be honest, content, patient, etc. Just as pressure needs to be applied to water to make it rise upwards, similarly certain 'pressure' is mandatory to make one rise from the base, and that sole pressure is Jap. Guruji describes it as:

ਸਿਮਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਸੋਇਆ ਮਨੁ ਜਾਗਾਈ ॥੨੩॥

simar simar simar gur apunaa soeiaa man jaagaaee ||23||

Remembering, remembering, remembering my Guru in meditation, my sleeping mind is awakened. ||23|| (Ang 758, SGGS Ji)

From ages, our life energy has been sleeping. One often spends the entire lifetime sleeping in this slumber. When this energy rises up with the efforts of Jap, the desire of kaam is destroyed; one does not find pleasures in kaam rass anymore. This is because kaam rass lies below the energy base, while the energy has already risen above its base. Thus, kaam rass is destroyed when the energy rises up. But even though desires of kaam get destroyed, the energy has not reached the supreme state of bliss.

Those individuals, whose energy has not even risen from its base, the observation is that their kaami desires do not get diminished even after reaching a ripe old age.

ਪੁੰਡਰ ਕੇਸ ਕੁਸਮ ਤੇ ਧਉਲੇ ਸਪਤ ਪਾਤਾਲ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥

punddar kaes kusam thae dhhoulae sapath paathaal kee baanee ||

Your hair is whiter than the jasmine flower, and your voice has grown feeble, as if it comes from the seventh underworld.

ਲੋਚਨ ਸ੍ਰਮਹਿ ਬੁਧਿ ਬਲ ਨਾਠੀ ਤਾ ਕਾਮੁ ਪਵਸਿ ਮਾਧਾਣੀ ॥

lochan sramehi budhh bal naathee thaa kaam pavas maadhhaanee ||

Your eyes water, and your intellect and strength have left you; but still, your sexual desire churns and drives you on. (Ang 93, SGGS Ji)

Bhagat Trilochan Ji says that even at the old age, where have have turned white, eyes cannot see properly, the voice shakes with weakness, the desires of kaam keep churning in the empty, dry pot. There is only way to escape this desire, and that way is Jap.

If the energy goes down, it gives birth to human form; it it rises up, it gives birth to the formless within. If the energy goes down, it ends the human in dust; if it rises up, it merges the soul with Akal Purakh. A Person that has no desire for kaam left in him and finds no attraction in the physical form shows clear signs of the risen energy.

ਰੂਪੈ ਕਾਮੈ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਭੁਖੈ ਸਾਦੈ ਗੰਢੁ ॥

roopai kaamai dhosathee bhukhai saadhai gandt ||

Beauty and sexual desire are friends; hunger and tasty food are tied together. (Ang 1288, SGGS Ji)

That person will see the formless in all humanity and nature he will savour Akal Purakh in all the exreme objects of beauty. Otherwise, there is only the world of desires below the base of the energy. If one has not been able to rise up from the base, then even the visits and prayers said at religious places is solely to get worldly desires fulfilled. It is often observed that people sitting at the religious places are busy praying to that effect. Therefore, anyone who lives in a world of desires (kaamna) is a kaami.

ਤੁਮ ਕਹੀਅਤ ਹੌ ਜਗਤ ਗੁਰ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥

thum keheeath ha jagath gur suaamee ||

You are called the Lord and Master, the Guru of the World.

ਹਮ ਕਹੀਅਤ ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਕੇ ਕਾਮੀ ॥੧॥

ham keheeath kalijug kae kaamee ||1||

I am called a lustful being of the Dark Age of Kali Yuga. ||1|| (Ang 710, SGGS Ji)

[N30S1NGH]

This is probably most beautiful, deep, insightful, soul nerving, heart wrenching post i have ever read online..much appreciated I will have to read five or six times to get full grasp of it..and most beautiful thing about your post veer that i feel it that all came from your heart and your deep profound experience and understanding of divinity and nature of divinity- sargun and nirgun Vahiguroo, truly marvelous bro..vahiguroo kirpa karan..!!!.!!

P.s - benti to admin to take laddli fauj veer post as sticky regarding people's query regarding kaam in gupt section so people can read veer ji post before making post regarding kaam.

[ladli-fauj]

thanks veer ji...the truth is this man giani sant singh ji maskeenshould be thanked......everywhere i look i see, hear, feel nothing else but waheguru aisa anand da sagar phutteya, kushi de geet, anand de geet jis din moht sohila ban jaaye samajlo es bande daa aiya jaggat te saffal hogeya moht kushi bangi...from the day we opened our eyes we forgot the lords voice, he was calling, talking and we didnt even recognize his voice

everytime anyone has a rise in seema kaam energy please dont think negative thoughts its the lord, speaking, asserting his presence, reaching out to you, its a powerful shakti which the lord is ever present in and is the anhad naad that is the lords language, that jot, that prakash braajmaan,.also listen ot akaal ustat...bhagat nu pechanan li ik khaas akh honi chahi di hai, bhagat hon li ik khaas hirda hona chahi da hai

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i urge everyone to listen to all these parts ITS A MUST....28:00 onwards in this all ull all understand what im trying to say

i am working on gathering some best words of giani ji to make a awesome thread on them for inspriation

[help222]

is there a way you can erase sins and get rid of the paaps yu did