Christmas trees in houses of Sikhs

[Wingz23]

"The Voice Of The Sikh Youth- where Sikhs all over the world join together"

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN THE STATE OF THIS TOPIC???

if this site has the subheading bringing millions of Sikhs together, You guys attacking each other are doing a great job of NOT letting that happen

GET A GRIP

[luckysingh99]

Merry christmas !!

I hope we have a white one ! :lol2:

[bluespace]

Neo ji...money was the motivation and it wasnt an initial intention to comehere until invitation was offered...bro what an insult with comparison to pakis...we serv this country ie taxes etc... Pakis clean tbegovt by fraud..thats real robbing the country...saying merry xmas to someone and having a xmas tree are two different things... One issaying merry xmas have a good one ect which keans you respect their religion/festival...having an xmas tree at home is saying im participating in this festival...what about sikhs living in pakiland do they celebrate eid....im sure they say to their muslim neighbours happy eid but highly doubt they participate...i can understand the typical panjabi family but fora singh tohave axmas tree...for those singhs that have an xmas tree... Do you also go to the church on xmas day to show goreh that we sikhs are open minded so pat us on the back...1994..the next jung for sikhs is going to against sikhs...its going to be a jathabhandi fight....

[bluespace]

Lucky....what your really saying is "merry xmas...i hope im a white one..."

[luckysingh99]

Lucky....what your really saying is "merry xmas...i hope im a white one..."

I am white.

Why are you so concerned what I 'hope' for ?

Do you have a problem with gora sikhs ?

[luckysingh99]

Don't you mean 1430?

Good one!!

I said 1429 deliberatly so that one would notice!

Loof carefully because I said the 'gurmat that 1429 pages teaches you'

I have no argument or issue that page 1430 gurbani,- I accept it as bani, but does it teach you like the other 1429 pages?

Do you see it as a seal as Guru Arjan Dev ji intended, a sort of summary or final round up ?

We don't want to go off topic about raag mala, but personally the 1429 pages are what 'teach' you to be gurmukh in my opinion.

[bluespace]

No dont have a problem with goreh sikhs you could be purple as far as im concerned..but why the xmastree...all this over axmas tree.im dredding when it comes to eid..then its going to an official sikh sangat internet war..enjoy your soya turkey and ribena...

[luckysingh99]

No dont have a problem with goreh sikhs you could be purple as far as im concerned..but why the xmastree...all this over axmas tree.im dredding when it comes to eid..then its going to an official sikh sangat internet war..enjoy your soya turkey and ribena...

Why don't you just wish everyone a rotten christmas and pray for their misery, seeing as you are a very rightous sikh ??

[bluespace]

Lucky paaji... Ii wish everyone a mery xmas...but still would not have a xmas tree in my house....if i did then i will also change my name to david o fit in with my fellow goreh countrymen.....

[sukhjeevansingh]

my two pence on this

okay as a child we did have christmas tree in our house, and yeah we did give presents, cards etc..

wen i went to school i saw muslims who would say that they did not celebrate christmas and i would see them as hypocritical extremists. i knew of the shaheedi of the sahibzadey but truth be told i did not know it was around this time.

when i grew up my grandmother died on christmas eve but to an extent even in the years following that we and all our relatives celebrated christmas as per usual. shows that we didnt really have much attachment or memory and got over it pretty quickly because christmas seemed to great to get rid of.

last year i had the opportunity to spend this time at fatehgarh sahib and i can tell you my life during this period of time will not be the same.

children im sure carry no importance to the historical reasoning behind christmas but due to the celebrations of this time i am sure that their curious minds will ask questions like how did christmas start etc? and we will have to tell them the honest truth that either it is a pagan festival or more generally it represents the birth of jesus. this is all aided with the nativity plays, jesus films etc on tv. in a way without knowing the parchar of christianity is going on. actually however it doesnt matter all that much.

instead of focusing on what christmas means and whether we should have a tree or not? we should focus on what we should be doing in this period of time. because if we simply cancel our christmas children WILL feel left out. im making my point around children because adults in their right mind shouldnt give more importance to it then a day off work. no excuses our religion, our culture, our everything is sikhi.. we dont have time to celebrate other stuff when we dont even celebrate our own gurpurbs properly.

about 60 years ago every bibi would come to fatehgarh sahib with a white chunni. all the sangat would SIT on the streets between fatehgarh sahib shaheedi asthaan and jothi saroop sahib and read banhee, and listen to alanheeyaan daa paath and ramkalee sadh on the final day before going home. such was the bairaag in the hearts of the panth. sadh sangat jee we need to make our children aware and so proud of their virsa and the martyrdom of the shaheeds that they themselves can tell their peers why they are not celebrating it. i know the argument will be that kids dont understand, they only have matlab with presents. firstly sangat jeee kids are not stupid they learn things very quickly. the only child that will not is a toddler and a toddler wont be complaining about christmas. also DONT be KANJOOS presents are what children want we also have times of khushee aswell i.e. you can give them presents, make the same big deal out of the parkash divas of sri guru nanak dev jee.. guru gobind singh sahib jees purab is coming give them presents then aswell. so kids can say we dont have ONE christmas we have so many gurpurabs. but in this time when in a matter of weeks the whole biological family of my guru was martyred how can we celebrate? we cant expect children to come educated we must educate them..

working in a family business that only closes for two days a year i wil admit that we will proabbly have a 'meal' together that day simply because we're at home and we have a chance to eat in peace. also just to add muslims are so serious about their religion they even ask if pure veg mithai is halal before buying it off apne, shud put our lot to shame that we dont care about anything. khalsa jee this is the 'saddest' time of the year for us (i know sikhi manns bhaana but we have prem and appreciation towards sarbansdaanee guru jee at least) goreh dont care about nothing and thats why no one goes to church. they turned the 'shahadat' of jesus into easter chocolate egg eating days. they lost the plot. lets not do the same, we try to copy them in everything else lets atleast have some respect in these days.

also lucky'singh'99 why didnt your fingers break off before saying ang 1430 dont teach anything. enough said. jaadheh siyaane ho gai ajj kal de sikh. not our fault or maharaj sache pathsah that you cant be bothered to learn the arth of raag maala gurbani. not teach anything da bacha